Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies.
Locked on 08/26/2005 5:40:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1471591/posts



Skip to comments.

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: allamericangirl; americansweetheart; aprayerfornatalee; aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; stilldead
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 2,261-2,2802,281-2,3002,301-2,3202,321-2,338 next last
To: Dolphy

I recall DVD's were taken too. Was that the K2 mom who stated that?

VAN SUSTEREN: What has been seized from this house?

A. VAN DER SLOOT: The first time it was one computer that we all use. There's no lock on it so we can see what the kids are doing, one laptop of my husband that he only uses for his work, my digital camera what was on my desk, not in Joran's room on my desk. And I just had a field trip with middle-schoolers and I took pictures of a sand sculpturing project that we were doing because I'm an art teacher and there were like maybe 20, 25 pictures on it and I told the police, listen, this is material I want to use for school but for the rest there's nothing on it. You can look at it but they took that too.

They took all kind of things from Joran, a little kind of an MP3 player. They took tapes, also a tape of his tennis, college tennis camp. And the second time they took — they did a house searching, the garden, the pool. They took the two cars.


2,281 posted on 08/26/2005 3:30:49 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2277 | View Replies]

To: juzcuz
Wow, this thread is sooooo long. Just think what NH threads will be like when the trial starts.... Yikes..

Based on what we've seen, or not seen, in this matter, no telling what the trial will be like! I'm not really informed about Mr. Pink either, but I understand it is the nom de porn for the owner and/or distributor of a porn production company. I could be very wrong...LOL!
2,282 posted on 08/26/2005 3:31:49 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2270 | View Replies]

To: Dolphy

I think the pieces are starting to fall into place. Beth says they have evidence of an assault...The only evidence I can think of, since Natalee is not with us, is photos or a video. J's apartment would have been a convenient place to do these "projects." Papa Sloot could be in on it too, as participant or facilitator. I'm sure there are many victims, both local girls and girls on vacation.

Beth was right when she said this was bigger than Natalee, and that we would be shocked and devastated.

I think we're getting closer to the truth!


2,283 posted on 08/26/2005 3:33:00 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2277 | View Replies]

SM:

nancy_drew wrote:
They think Freddy has something to do with disposal of the body! They're shaking him down...

I knew it...the witness they have that says Paulas got a call from Joran is key...they knew there were others out there that knew this...or, were part of it. This is the guy! They brought him in on the photo charge to get him to talk.

(snip)


They said it on Abrams...the part about Freddy knowing about the disposal of the body...

BUT, TJ Ward was very compelling the other day on Crier...he said that had a witness who said Joran called Paulas and got help with the body...Ward knew there were others who had info...said they might be involved so getting them to come forward would be dicey...

I think this is one of those people...


2,284 posted on 08/26/2005 3:41:18 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2283 | View Replies]

To: maggief

When I get home I'll look further...maybe it's the tapes I remember her saying they took. Thanks for looking that up though. It's really sad where things may be leading...that's a world of people connected only by their depravity.


2,285 posted on 08/26/2005 3:44:20 PM PDT by Dolphy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2281 | View Replies]

To: Canadian Outrage; truthluva; justche; cajungirl; spectre; maggief; TexKat; Froufrou; All
I wonder if their little drugging/raping gang progressed to a snuff film?

From a little digging on Google, it looks like rape films are a big market and snuff films are still thought of as an urban legend.

Remember Andrew Luster, the Max Factor heir. He made rape films and traded them with other wealthy men in an internet club called "The Bachelors."

From what I can see (on Google of course), standard old porn (classic porn?) is tired and tattered, showcasing many of the familiar aging actress and actors. It is a very lucretive biz but needs fresh new faces (and fresh ideas). Aruba would be an ideal point of original. Steady flow of young girls and the organized crime infrastructure to distribute the goods (and of course provide the date-rape and other drugs).

Also, do you guys remember that mention of 2 aces dealt Nat in the casino...as a sign to Jurine that Nat had been chosen. I keep getting that old feeling that Jurine and the K's are just the tip of the iceberg.

2,286 posted on 08/26/2005 3:47:22 PM PDT by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2275 | View Replies]

To: maggief
There is an Arends on Montanja, too; also a Croes. BRB.
2,287 posted on 08/26/2005 3:47:49 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2271 | View Replies]

To: hummingbird

Arubagirl is out searching for 39F Montana, (see the Chamber of Commerce link above). She may upload pics later.


2,288 posted on 08/26/2005 3:54:36 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2287 | View Replies]

To: stlnative
Plausible, very plausible theory.

Add one element: Girls are picked for made to order films. In other words, they are signaled which girl to pick.

As these films progressed (if this is to be believed) maybe the acts themselves were made to order as well.

Sick. Sick. Sick.

Two things they couldn't have counted on: Natalee's reaction to the drugs because of her asthma, and, then Beth.

Who could have predicted Beth?
2,289 posted on 08/26/2005 3:55:44 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2243 | View Replies]

To: Dark Skies
Also, do you guys remember that mention of 2 aces dealt Nat in the casino...as a sign to Jurine that Nat had been chosen. I keep getting that old feeling that Jurine and the K's are just the tip of the iceberg.
2,290 posted on 08/26/2005 3:58:38 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2286 | View Replies]

To: Dark Skies
oops ... Also, do you guys remember that mention of 2 aces dealt Nat in the casino...as a sign to Jurine that Nat had been chosen. I keep getting that old feeling that Jurine and the K's are just the tip of the iceberg.

It may be true after all ... I also recall Beth's comment early on that she knows Natalee was at the vdS home.
2,291 posted on 08/26/2005 4:00:21 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2286 | View Replies]

To: Canadian Outrage

iGNORE my ost 2117 - I was really FAR behind and trying to catch up so was commenting on the wrong information. I'm so glad that the information was wrong and that the Kalpoe brothers along with their buddy Joran and others are in caca rather deep!!


2,292 posted on 08/26/2005 4:00:24 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2117 | View Replies]

To: Lizarde

Let's just say it - TITO IS A BONE FIDE JERK!!! He can't even report the TRUTH? Wonder why???


2,293 posted on 08/26/2005 4:01:52 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2124 | View Replies]

To: MAWG; All
you know, if there is a poster here that upsets you, the best policy would be to ignore that poster instead of this constant fighting and wasting of bandwidth and time.....

we "dial-uppers" have enough to do than to put up with these silly arguements...

and BTW...no one except JR OWNS these threads......

this is FREE REPUBLIC , emphasize on "FREE".......

2,294 posted on 08/26/2005 4:03:17 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2073 | View Replies]

To: Canadian Outrage

I think he was reporting what he heard before the prosecuter made their statment..(close in timing)which probably was made due to disinformation..i will give him the benefit of the doubt on this one..lol,,,


2,295 posted on 08/26/2005 4:06:40 PM PDT by rolling_stone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2293 | View Replies]

To: maggief
it's looking more and more like someone was padding these kids pockets in exchange for some form of homemade porn. They had to get the ruffies from some where and the cash. I bet there are some kinky higher ups on the island that don't want all this out. I am talking like a small island elite club of older men who liked watch these young boys gang rape these girls. It could be that homemade videos or pictures were not enough for some and it may have went as far as them having a live audience while these boys did this to some of these drugged girls. I'm not talking about a large enterprise but just a small group of dirty old rich men on the island. Joran was a player - the boys got sex and paid to do it while others sat back and enjoyed what they were seeing and they were willing to pay for it.
2,296 posted on 08/26/2005 4:07:32 PM PDT by stlnative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2279 | View Replies]

To: justche
You know, the thought just occurred to me - How horrifying for who knows how many girls out there, who knew something had happened, but maybe wasn't quite sure what (on their last night on the island) and how they must be feeling seeing three and four guys arrested--I just feel so sorry for those girls!

As they say, there's safety in numbers. Maybe now that more are stepping forward and reporting it, more will follow.

2,297 posted on 08/26/2005 4:07:41 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2098 | View Replies]

To: auboy

Same here...


2,298 posted on 08/26/2005 4:08:06 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2278 | View Replies]

To: No Surrender No Retreat
I think maybe the disruptor will get the hint and repent

We're not so lucky (see post #2113). Disruptors are just like flies on poop. They can't get their fill and keep coming back for more.

You be careful with Katrina coming your way!

2,299 posted on 08/26/2005 4:13:28 PM PDT by demkicker (Life has many choices. Eternity has only two. Which one have you chosen?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2100 | View Replies]

To: truthluva
" Pre-meditated?"

I am hoping that somehow, the polis have found tape that depicts a rape.....

I have maintained from day one after hearing about Jerk and the Alpos having these web sites and the supposed film of the gang rape of some girl from before Natalee time.....

IF they had cell phones with the ability to send the footage to someones' computer for later enjoyment, THEN IT IS PREMEDITATED.......

Lord, I hope the cops have that evidence.....

Natalee it seems to me was just a "project" similar to Dennis Rader's Projects......

2,300 posted on 08/26/2005 4:15:41 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2155 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 2,261-2,2802,281-2,3002,301-2,3202,321-2,338 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson