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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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To: maggief

Maggie, I still won't be satisfied until Paulus VDS is re-arrested. Now that they have these FOUR guys incarcerated again, I am more hopeful that at least ONE of them will start singing!!


2,221 posted on 08/26/2005 1:36:26 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

lol

I never heard about tickle sites, either!

I'm hoping that one of the 6 girls that have now come forward could identify someplace that they were taken by the rapist gang. Maybe evidence of Natalee being there?


2,222 posted on 08/26/2005 1:37:46 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Trust but Verify
Darlin', I know it wasn't about me. But all this in-fighting is giving me a nasty headache. And I have to play my fiddle tonight.

Let's just all take a nice deep breath and rejoice that this case seems to finally be moving toward resolution!

2,223 posted on 08/26/2005 1:37:55 PM PDT by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Note to Katrina: Be afraid, be very afraid.

Stay safe, darlin', and report back when you can!


2,224 posted on 08/26/2005 1:39:15 PM PDT by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears)
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To: Fritzy

Hey Fritzy, I know how you feel, it always seems like I'm trying to catch up too. That's why you end up seeing about 8 or 9 posts of mine in a row LOL. Just replying to some of the previous posts!!


2,225 posted on 08/26/2005 1:39:18 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage

I think if you live in ARuba it must be some knid of requirement to have a Tickle site. lol


2,226 posted on 08/26/2005 1:40:31 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: spectre

yep - well please keep lurking... we're heading to the support the troops rally tomorrow in Crawford.. (the second time we're going... yippee.. :) ) So if something happens re Natalee I MAY not hear about it..

Tho' my son is going to try to take his laptop - and cell - they say the cell contact is spotty in Crawford - but we've never had any problems there... so I MAY be able to get on.. laugh..


2,227 posted on 08/26/2005 1:42:52 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: Mama25; Trust but Verify

Amen

I'll even apologize for my snarky posts to TBV.....

It is very good news today! And I was happy to see that Beth was back home for a few days. She can recharge her batteries before heading back to the snakepit, aka Aruba.


2,228 posted on 08/26/2005 1:43:18 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: hummingbird
I just reread some of the Shango riddles and, as I always do when reading Shango, I feel that he speaks with authority. The voice of authority cannot be faked. When a liar tries to speak with authority he still sounds like a liar.

That is why I think Shango is telling the truth. He may speak in riddles but the substance and truth of what he is saying comes through loud and clear.

2,229 posted on 08/26/2005 1:45:55 PM PDT by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
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To: txrangerette
"Just thinking aloud here..."

Of course. That's what most of us are doing here. My own theory was posted, as well as several others'.

One thing we would do well to keep in mind is this: None of the key players are overly smart. I absolutely do not buy into any of those theories that have Urine and the others doing a lot of fancy planning and scheming. Such is highly unlikely.

2,230 posted on 08/26/2005 1:48:13 PM PDT by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Now I recall reading that.. I thought you were talking about my work with OPIC...

Your capacity to remember important statements, there values then connect to current events are incredible... I am truly impressed..

Take care more later....
Fritzt
2,231 posted on 08/26/2005 1:48:41 PM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: Lizarde

I'm confused as to why any of the three would confess to rape unless they thought she might be found alive or unless they thought witnesses might come forward. Even if a body is found I would think there would be some difficulty in distinguishing consensual sex and rape, even if the body does show signs of trauma. I always thought the Dutch boy admitted to having sex with her and Beth interpreted that as being an admission of rape but I'm not sure. I just can't see any sense in admitting to rape and yet refusing to say anything else for weeks and weeks. But then again maybe it will all be clear if and when the case comes to trial and we know what evidence the police really have.


2,232 posted on 08/26/2005 1:51:11 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: libsl

Doubt if anyone confessed to rape, unless it was in hope to avoid a charge of complicity in a murder. Joran supposedly confessed to sexual activity, but Beth interpreted it as an assault because even in Joran's story he protrayed Natalee as either drinking or doing drugs or both. The other thing is that in one statement Joran supposedly accused Deepak of raping Natalee when he, Joran, had left her alone on the beach. Also accused Deepak of murduring and burying her, too. Take it or leave it as you will, my point is that one accused the other of it, which isn't a confession, and that same one admitted there was sexual activity but was not portraying it as rape.


2,234 posted on 08/26/2005 1:58:41 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: johnb838

The only thing about that scenario tho John is that Beth still wouldn't have Natalee's remains to take home to bury. It would be good to KEEP Joran off the streets but somehow God's gotta come through and direct them to nat's remains for this poor mother, father and step-father as well as for the rest of her family and her friends. I'm quite SURE that Joran has done plenty of sexual assaults and deserves to stay in prison for that.


2,235 posted on 08/26/2005 1:58:50 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Thanks.. it is good to know that someone else is in the boat with me... I keep trying to work and then catch the important postings here.. so get a little confused some time...

Now if I could just design a way to do my work without actually thinking... I just noticed that in my last post I used There for Their..oh well.. another story...

The need to keep up with the Natalee/Beth journey is so important.. I can't tell you how often I have prayed.. Natalee and her family represent the thoughtful, caring, loving part of American society that I truly admire.. to let my mind wonder to what may have happened to Natalee is grotesque..but I can deal with the fact that there are evil workings happening and that we (you/I/ FRiends/ Families/etc) must be vigilant, demanding and supportive of efforts to address evils impacting our brothers and sisters...

So while I take a lot of time here (not as much as our leaders).. it is with the best intentions.. to learn, to act, to expand my prayers and to be with other people who share my values...

So I will keep running to keep up and most importantly to learn from you all...

Cheers...

The Fritzy
2,236 posted on 08/26/2005 2:06:14 PM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: Canadian Outrage

arrested guy is Freddy Arends,,never heard of him. A neighbor of Jorans. I thought it was locoman.


2,237 posted on 08/26/2005 2:06:28 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: All
It's interesting how the same names, phone numbers and e-mail addresses keep cropping up in Aruba.

Freddie Arends, reportedly a friend and neighbor of Joran Van Der Sloot, reportedly arrested today.

Law Offices of:
Advokatenkantoor Mr M.H.J. Arends-Kock
E-mail: law-arends-kock@setarnet.aw
Tel: (297) 583-4900
Fax: (297) 583-6977

KOCK, David…. ARUBAN. Attorney to Current Suspect Satish Kalpoe
Email: law-arends-kock@setarnet.aw
Tel: (297) 583-4900
Fax: (297) 583-6977

KOCK, Richie…. ARUBAN. Attorney for Main Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot
Email: law-arends-kock@setarnet.aw
Tel: (297) 583-4900
Fax: (297) 583-6977

I wonder is Freddie Arends is related to anyone of these lawyers who all share the same e-mail addresses and phone numbers.

2,238 posted on 08/26/2005 2:08:05 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: cajungirl

I think I just heard some guy on CC say that Arends is an alias for some name with the initials AB. Can you tell my dog was barking his vocal cords out and I didn't get to hear very well? This Freddie aka AB is a neighbor of Urine.


2,239 posted on 08/26/2005 2:09:12 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: txrangerette

It makes sense to me now--on the one hand J.VDS confessed to sexual activity and on the other hand he said Natalee was drunk/stoned, so the interpretation is that she was not capable of consent. And the same with his accusation against the other boy.

Still I think if he really thought her body would never be found, why confess to anything?


2,240 posted on 08/26/2005 2:11:04 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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