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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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To: Dark Skies; truthluva

What about if Natalee were still alive at the point of her initial disappearance?

They held her against her will and something went wrong with whatever their exact plan for her was, after which she was a threat to them if they ever let her go alive, and they killed her then? Perhaps even after some time passed? (In date rape, the victim is not supposed to be a threat because she has no memory of what happened, right? What if a drug interaction changed the affect of a drug they gave her and she COULD remember, even could and did fight them?)

Or, another possibility is that they QUICKLY PLANNED AND EXECUTED HER DEATH after something unexpected happened, and I mean quickly, but it still contained all the elements of premeditation.
About the girls coming forward...just think about the risk they were under as long as Joran and Kalpoes and PVDS knew about their being "out there". Even if not able to remember exactly, because of being drugged, they had to know something went down with these perps, they just could not prove it. Yet, they could add to suspicions in Natalee's case, and the perps knew it.

Is it possible these girls received threats from the perps, or someone on behalf of the perps, that they had better keep quiet or else??? That could be used as evidence of guilt against the perps, if they could be linked to some threats against these girls.

Just thinking aloud here...


2,201 posted on 08/26/2005 1:02:36 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Dark Skies

Well that makes sense. Someone has told something to the prosecutor that is incriminating, or some new physical evidence has been identified. This could be the break many have been waiting for.


2,202 posted on 08/26/2005 1:03:25 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Palladin

Is the Smokey Back Room the last stop before the death sentence?


2,203 posted on 08/26/2005 1:04:04 PM PDT by Tarheel ( Murphy's law #21--Internet flame wars are started by two cats who did not like their supper.)
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To: Mean Maryjean
Actually, so far it has. We'll try reminding people on the thread, and we'll send some people on a forced vacation if necessary to restore some sanity.

But this is Thread 15 and the food fight has been going on for way too long. It's going to stop.

2,204 posted on 08/26/2005 1:04:21 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: truthluva

Thanks TL,
I guess it all comes from in-breeding. Fathers Day, must be the most confusing day in Aruba for many of it's inhabitants.

I hope they put the Alpo's Bro's in different cells with a couple of heavy Bubbas.

I thought Mama Alpo, stated they are such good boys'?

Looks like those numbahs did not equivocate and the two Bro's done got themselves a cell house mate.

I would be willing to bet that there is a lot of "Johnnie Stepping" going on in Aruba right now.

Frito, T-bird& Ripper Schipper's are doing the JS boogie trying to be cool like noogie.

Think We Need a Backup? Naw!!
NSNR-MV1980's


2,205 posted on 08/26/2005 1:04:53 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: hummingbird

LOL...the thing about ole Shango's Riddle is that you can put any names you want in there and come up with a new villian. While very creative, I'm not sure that whoever Shango is, he/she was guessing...just like us.


2,206 posted on 08/26/2005 1:05:02 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: txrangerette

Intersting thoughts. I remember very early on Beth saying that she knew Natalee had been at the VDS house. If they were 'holding' her for some reason she may have even been there the night that the family confronted the VDS at their house. The polis were not interested in checking the house or in taking Joran down for questioning.


2,207 posted on 08/26/2005 1:09:08 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Mama25

Then why not comment on the tagline? BTW, I've been using that tagline for months. Maybe, just maybe, it isn't about YOU?


2,208 posted on 08/26/2005 1:09:57 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Well, all they have to do now is close the bedroom doors and Mama Kalpoe will think they are in bed sleeping or on the computer.

The bloodlines are compicated. Seems everyone is related to everyone. Or, they worked for the one bloodline they aren't related to.


2,209 posted on 08/26/2005 1:11:36 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dark Skies

Indeed!


2,210 posted on 08/26/2005 1:16:36 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: Mama25

Hey Mama,
Yes I do remember that commercial. I might say, a most beftting name for the infamous (Zero Tito)

I am sure Malichi will turn that commercial into a song for us all.

Looks like I am going to have to engage in a little hand to hand combat with hurricane Katrina.

Take care Mama and keep the faith.

Living on the edge,
NSNR-EDIL












2,211 posted on 08/26/2005 1:18:06 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: truthluva; Dark Skies
...the thing about ole Shango's Riddle is that you can put any names you want in there and come up with a new villian...

That's the beauty of Shango's Riddle! Man o' man, I could have used Shango's thread in college to jumpstart many a creative writing exercise!

Race ya'll over there!
2,212 posted on 08/26/2005 1:23:05 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: spectre; Trust but Verify

You'll get no flames from me!


2,213 posted on 08/26/2005 1:25:45 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: pamlet
:) I'm watching for TexKat or someone else to move this thread out of the SBR...things are going to break fast.

Regards, "the lurker"..:)

2,214 posted on 08/26/2005 1:29:15 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: libsl

This has sorta been one of my theories this whole time. Even Anita said the other night something along the lines of Joran being safe in Jail (this was in relation to the filming, but the words struck me). I think he's absolutely in jail to keep him from a. talking b. talking about the wrong people c. the necktie routine.


2,216 posted on 08/26/2005 1:30:25 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: spectre

Hey, spec. What's up? Can't believe we've been following this thread for MONTHS!


2,217 posted on 08/26/2005 1:30:27 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Dark Skies

Hey can you shoot a link back over here to the Shango thread? I can't find it anymore....

Thanks


2,218 posted on 08/26/2005 1:31:54 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Palladin

Hey Palladin,
Nothing would suprise me about that klown. They all have this little smirk on their faces of belonging to a certain cult group or loser gang.

I hope the Alpo Bro's are in a cell with Bubba, they will know what forced rape feels like now.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander,Oh Bubba
NSNR-JHR


2,219 posted on 08/26/2005 1:32:00 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: truthluva

That speaks volumes to me when a "politician" shows up at an A$$motion event!! Cripes, talk about loosey goosey!! The Dutch are pretty amoral in my view. And tickle sites? I had never even heard of one before this case.


2,220 posted on 08/26/2005 1:32:56 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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