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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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Reuben Trappenburg - Jossy Mansur - O’Reilly Wants to Know - Who Knows More?
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1455
by Tom

A very interesting and informative video clip of an interchange between Bill O’Reilly, Jossy Mansur, and Reuben Trappenburg on last nights O’Reilly Factor. The discussion was based around Jossy finding out about 3 women who have supposedly been targeted by Joran Van Der Sloot as objects of his affection, perhaps against their will.

Reuben has a very hard time determining if the police know about this, and is befuddled how to answer it. Bill O’Reilly pokes some fun at the Aruban Government Spokesman. “Maybe he should be in charge of the investigation?” referring to Jossy.

The file is 4.2 megabytes, so it will take a while to download if you are on dial up.

Click on the image to download the video,



This entry was posted on Wednesday, August 24th, 2005 at 3:19 pm

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I think clicking on the picture should bring up the video. If not, please go to the link above.

1,381 posted on 08/24/2005 12:54:29 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Yaelle

I meant the former, but both could easily be true.....in fact, all along I've assumed the latter is true.


1,383 posted on 08/24/2005 1:09:02 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Froufrou

Awww man, I got pinged to a removed post...what did it say? *lol*


1,384 posted on 08/24/2005 1:13:59 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: justche

Nope. Sorry, but it was not you.


1,385 posted on 08/24/2005 1:17:35 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Lizarde

Good point, Lizarde. I imagine that part of it is to start counteracting whatever the defence has? Maybe part is to save Aruban tourism? Who knows? There is a huge disinformation campaign going on and it does not surprise me to see any of them out there spreading rumors.

I don't know why they are using Satish's lawyer specifically. Satish has not been as central in the coverage, but maybe he is more involved and the lawyer is covering? Maybe he is working with Deepak's lawyers? That would be a conflict of interest, I think, but it may be part of their strategy—especially if the three are covering for more important people. I suspect we will eventually see all of the lawyers spinning for their clients.


1,386 posted on 08/24/2005 1:20:13 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: justche; Froufrou

What was that post?


1,387 posted on 08/24/2005 1:23:20 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe

"...using Satish's lawyer..."

I was fairly well impressed with his use and pronunciation of english.....he's a long way from that mumbling idiot TOTO as well as the other local lawyers that have commented.


1,388 posted on 08/24/2005 1:33:49 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Well, there it is. He is more user-friendly to an English-speaking audicence. Thanks, FRiend.


1,389 posted on 08/24/2005 1:37:16 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Lizarde

I still think some of the key is finding out more about suriname, and who these kalpoe brothers are, and who their family members are. (I don't ever watch Nancy Grace, but every time I type Kalpoe, I can just hear kalpoooooey!)


1,391 posted on 08/24/2005 1:55:00 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Dark Skies
Maggief...it almost sounds as if Jossy is the primary source for the story as reported by Crier and Scarborough about girls being raped by Jurine. Is there another more substantive source than Jossy? What is your take on this new information?

Jossy is the only media source, Trappenburg says the he's not aware of the girls' stories, (typical), and Tito is ... well, a lost cause. Jossy has not directly spoken with the girls, only their attorneys. At least one girl is assisted by some sort of support group.

In my opinion Jossy appears to want to help find NH, though his motives still seem suspect. Beth and Jug sound confident with their new attorney, who's come out of retirement to assist.

Now, Cliff Van Zandt, has stated that he's been aware of the girls for a few weeks. He's remain quiet until now fearing speaking out could jeopardize the investigation. Has Jossy fed CVZ the information? Perhaps, but CVZ is a pro ... glad he's onboard.
1,392 posted on 08/24/2005 2:05:23 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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SM:

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Art Woods

She is a little afraid, she is only 16 yrs old. Claims she was raped by Joran after being given a date rape drug.

Has gone to the child advocate in Aruba

Next step, her attorney takes it to the prosecutor

Happened early this past spring

At this point, she doesn't want to talk to any Americans or the press

She has said that they will not identify the young woman

I think she is depending on the fact that she can convince two other girls to come forward.

These are Aruban girls, the one going to police is 16

She was afraid to come forward because she did not tell her parents


1,393 posted on 08/24/2005 2:25:43 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: maggief; theophilusscribe; justche; grizzfan; Malichi; Vn_survivor_67-68

"She was afraid to come forward because she did not tell her parents"

Nice. Having to live with that hell and adjust to being 16. That poor thing, probably trying to be cool and go along with the popular boy. Girls can sometimes put more pressure on each other than a boy can!


1,394 posted on 08/24/2005 2:50:33 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: maggief

"...the one going to police is 16"

Hopefully, she was 15 at the time.....since the age of consent in aruba is 16. I can hear jorans lawyers now....consensual and "legal".....but that won't fly if she was 15 at the time. The involvement of the 'child advocate' would imply that this is the case, and possibly so with the other two as well.


1,395 posted on 08/24/2005 2:50:53 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: theophilusscribe

Hey T,
Now who might that lovely mate be? A lady of splendor if I might say so, mate.
Running with the night,
NSNR-LR


1,396 posted on 08/24/2005 2:57:00 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: maggief

Dear Lord, 16! This poor girl, it's sad that she felt that could not go to her parents. Joran has an awful lot of explaining to do!


1,397 posted on 08/24/2005 2:59:38 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Aruba: "One Crappy Little Island!")
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To: TXDeb; All

Aruba-CARLOS N'CHARLIES

1,398 posted on 08/24/2005 3:07:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Malichi; Andy'smom; NCjim; Deguello; LegalEagle61; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; ...
Aruba group seeking divers to search for missing U.S. teen

8/24/2005, 4:35 p.m. CT

The Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — An Aruba group is seeking divers to continue the search for Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teenager who went missing nearly three months ago on the Dutch Caribbean island.

The group wants to lead the divers in exploring waters off Aruba's east coast, where Holloway was staying with 124 Mountain Brook High School classmates, said Eduardo Mansur, co-founder of the Aruba Search and Rescue Foundation, which has been helping search for the teenager since she vanished May 30.

Although the waters have been searched before, the group wants to try again with the help of a machine invented by an American who claims it can detect human bones and teeth under water, Mansur said. The inventor, Joe Walker, came to Aruba to help in the search, Mansur said.

"We have been working very hard on the case from the beginning," Mansur said. "We are following all leads."

Mansur said he and Walker are recruiting local divers. He said they will start when enough divers volunteer.

Holloway, 18, of Mountain Brook, Ala., vanished in the early hours of May 30, the last day of her trip. Police and hundreds of volunteers have scoured the small island and coastal waters in vain for her.

Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teenager who has acknowledged being alone with Holloway the night she disappeared, is the only person still in custody in the case. Van der Sloot, 18, has said he left the Alabama woman on a northeastern beach near the Marriott Hotel and did not harm her. He has not been charged.

1,399 posted on 08/24/2005 3:15:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Ewwww! Why is it that women today seem to have so little respect for themselves? Too many women/men view themselves/women as sex objects. I think it's sad.


1,400 posted on 08/24/2005 3:29:28 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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