Posted on 07/28/2005 6:57:17 AM PDT by TexKat
Previous Natalee Holloway Threads
Firefighters drain a lake, Tuesday, July 26, 2005, in Oranjestad, Aruba searching for Alabama teenager, Natalee Holloway, who vanished nearly two months ago while vacationing in the island. Edwin Comemencia, a police spokesman, confirmed that the draining of the lake across from the Marriott Hotel was part of the investigation into Holloway's disappearance but would not comment further. The draining was expected to take up to 24 hours. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)
Yes! Mostly silent all day until evening. I'd like to see some reports in the DAYLIGHT!
Reported here a bit earlier.
Why do you think they have yet to find the body, and quite possibly never will? You do the math.
And largely discredited, I might add.
You are behind Boogieman69. See post #178.
Are you referring to this post from Scared Monkeys? That's me they're quoting. (Ouch!!! Hurt my arm patting myself on the back)
From SM:
Watson Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject:
Vague thought (nothing to do with the pond), if Mrs Kalpoe wouldn't let the land near her house be searched why wasn't a warrant obtained ?
MSNBC was very close to the pond as I saw it on Scarborough. I was wondering why they were very close and Fox was a bit further out in the distance?
onja, don't think you have to "leave quietly" if you have something to say. You asked a legitmate question and I think you deserve thoughtful and polite answers.
Like you, I too am curious about the reasons for the huge interest in the Natalee Holloway case.
'sarasota' and 'pamlet' have already given answers I find to be true ... sarasota: "It is a daily dose of mystery and amateur sleuth-ism" and "It is, in fact, my business because I'm the mother of two daughters and this case has taught me a great deal about how to better protect them." and pamlet: "I think it's the BIG element of mystery ..
(LOL, sarasota and pamlet, you always put it so concisely, and nicely too.)
I'd like to expand on those answers, because I think there are several categories of people who are intensely interested:
(1) The ghoulish and prurient. Like rubbernecking at an car accident, that's human nature I guess.
(2) Baby boomers who have sons and daughters who are about the same age as the central characters in this story (Natalee, Joran, Deepak), and who can easily imagine themselves in the shoes of the parents involved.
(3) Amateur sleuths who find it interesting to try to puzzle out the case.
(4) Self-deluded people who fancy themselves the next 'buckhead' and believe they can somehow "solve" a long-distance missing person and/or murder case, using their own self-proclaimed expertise, or speculations based on a steaming pile of non-facts.
I consider myself to be a combination of (2) and (3), but mostly (2). As I've posted before, I'm the mom of a daughter much like Natalee, and a son much like Joran.
I'm very concerned about the effect our trashy popular culture has had on even "good" teenagers, and how "decency has been defined down" to the degree that some Boomer parents find themselves bewilderedly looking the other way while their otherwise-good, high-achieving kids are quite possibly indulging in partying, gambling, excessive drinking, taking drugs, and casual sex. (Sure, when we Boomers were kids, some percentage of us indulged in the same behavior. But now it seems that a much larger percentage do.)
(And btw, lest anyone misintepret that last paragraph to be an "attack" on Natalee, it isn't. Though there are a lot of reports that some Mountain Brook kids who went to Carlos n' Charlies were partying hard, I don't claim to know what Natalee's behavior was; and I have never, ever said an unkind word about Natalee or her parents. I sympathize with them completely and don't blame any of them. And IMHO the same standard should apply for Joran and his parents. Up to this point, we have no absolutely reliable evidence about Joran's character or behavior, and quite a few contradictory reports. False stories have been told about his parents too, but some of those were repeated as "fact.")
But anyway, onja, don't let anyone chase you off the thread. There are some people here who get indignant and pi$$y if anyone dares to ask questions, or to have a different opinion or theory than theirs.
But they don't "own" the thread. This is FreeRepublic, after all, owned by Jim Robinson, not the people who post on these threads. And according to JR, we're free to post our opinions and questions as long as we keep them within civil bounds.
People who don't like our questions or opinions are also completely free to scroll past posts they don't like.
As far as I know, the phone call is not confirmed, only rumor. Supposedly, there was a phone call made to the US around 3am the morning Natalee went missing. Rumor says it was from Natalee. Rumor says there might have been background noise (PVDS's neighbor's monkey howling) that Beth might have recognized when she visited the VDS home.
To my knowledge, all of this is unconfirmed.
Hello there and how are you today you rocket scientist you!
What? Something crawled up where and its difficult for you to get it out.
Did you locate Don Elias Mansur Ballpark yet?
Trouble is that someone like Onja comes along several times a week, and after what, about twelve weeks, the regulars on the thread get a little tired of patiently analyzing everything for them. And a little defensive -- why should they have to explain themselves for being interested in this case?
I know this girl could be anyone's daughter, but come on. Use a little common sense.
OK, but if you're tired of it, why don't you just skip their posts?
Last night with Greta, Beth said that Natalee's room was on the first floor and it opened to the beach. So, how can she be so sure that Natalee never returned? Couldn't she have slipped in the room without being seen? There is just something not quite right about this whole story. We're missing something. Posted by: TS | June 28, 2005 01:35 PM
I bet the FBI do, too.
It's still unfortunate to not have an X to completely ignore certain posters who continue to try to disrupt a thread. Not talking about an idle poster who isn't paying attention of course, I mean people like ..well like you.
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