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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: TexKat
Don't know but onyx checked the room availabilities at the HI.

There are plenty of rooms at the inn.........

741 posted on 07/05/2005 4:10:00 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat

This was on Fox several day ago, last week...that's a direct quote, the reporter used the word, 'hemorrhaging' referring to the Aruban tourist trade. It wasn't a local Aruban reporter, but someone from Fox, a US reporter. Then, the next night, an Aruban reporter was on, looking bright eyed and bushytailed, saying everything was fine, hotels were booked, no vacancies, nobody cancelling. Clearly this was an attempt to salvage or whitewash what was reported the night before.


742 posted on 07/05/2005 4:13:41 PM PDT by hershey
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To: varina davis

We have no way of knowing what happened. As much as people think they KNOW, all it would take is one or two pieces of new information that would change the whole complexion of the case. There are some who are convinced she was drugged, but that's just their theory.


743 posted on 07/05/2005 4:13:57 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: onyx
What did they lie about? About when they dropped Sloot and Natalee off? About where they dropped them off at?

We don't know for a certainty what they lied about. We have been given very little factual information. There seems to be EVIDENCE that Katish was home by a certain time and that a call was made to him or his brother AT HOME.

744 posted on 07/05/2005 4:14:04 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: hershey
omg....how awful!!

So much for "If you see a crime... report it."

Remember that one?

At least police caught them.

745 posted on 07/05/2005 4:14:06 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Rippersnapper
Oh sure, it's possible she is still alive, and it's possible aliens are visiting our planet.

NO. This particular case is based on Joran being the last one to be with her, then offering a change in his story pertaining to where he last "deposited" her.

Consciousness of guilt? Red Flag.

You can't honestly believe the guy isn't hiding something, can you Rip? Nahhhh. You're just bored and playing with us...admit it.

sw

746 posted on 07/05/2005 4:14:13 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: twigs

I think they are the ones who need to do the soul searching to determine the dark underworld they are trying to protect.


Perfect!!


747 posted on 07/05/2005 4:15:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: the Deejay
Just how many rooms were requested

There are plenty of rooms at the inn.........

Will ask Greta tonight on her site.

748 posted on 07/05/2005 4:15:47 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: hershey

All you'd have to do is go to applevacations.com or funjet.com and see what kinds of specials they're offering to Aruba. If the prices are very low, then there's a good chance they are hurting. Of course, the rates would already be somewhat lower due to it being hurricane season.


749 posted on 07/05/2005 4:16:35 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Dark Skies

Or it could be that Natalee was killed up at the lighthouse and was dumped in one of those old mine pits filled with water, which diving experts have said is a dangerous place to have to search. But if they threw her body into the sea by the lighthouse, that's in the vicinity where sharks feed on offal dumped by local fishermen. Joran and his pals would know this.


750 posted on 07/05/2005 4:17:07 PM PDT by hershey
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To: TexKat

See post 725


751 posted on 07/05/2005 4:17:32 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: hershey

I wouldn't think sharks would eat a whole human being, would they? Wouldn't some remains or pieces of clothing wash up? These are probably not the size of sharks that could eat a whole person.


752 posted on 07/05/2005 4:18:42 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: hershey
Never heard if the lighthouse has been checked thoroughly.
753 posted on 07/05/2005 4:19:27 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat
"Is anyone paying any attention to what is going on in Aruba at the present. Do you wonder why our media is not showing us this, it is being shown on a local television station in Aruba. Anti-US Media Demonstration?"

Fox just showed the demonstration. They said about 50 protesters. One man was saying the Americans are in their country not New Jersey or Alabama etc. They had signs, I didn't see what any of them said. It was only about a 20 second film.

754 posted on 07/05/2005 4:20:21 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If you're LURKING and reading you should be DONATING to the FReepathon!! Go Jr ~8~)
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To: truthluva
They would have had somewhere between 2:00 am and 6:30 am. Four and a haf hours.

Someone mentioned earlier that daylight would have occured earlier than 6:30. Seem like Greta commented on it, just don't recall what her final timeline was.

755 posted on 07/05/2005 4:21:56 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Dr. Baden has been asked this question and said with certainty that there would be nothing left to wash up.


756 posted on 07/05/2005 4:22:09 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Trust but Verify

Lots of pieces of clothing,
shoes & towels have been
found by divers.

Sharks can and do chew a
body into pieces. One shark
grabs it, his mates soon join
in soon as they smell the blood
in the water. No more body.


757 posted on 07/05/2005 4:22:32 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Rippersnapper

I suspect Joran raped Natalee and then, when she screamed, covered her mouth and nose, trying to shut her up. He realized he'd killed her, and perhaps the Kalpoe bros. were there, watching. But they know what Joran did, and their skedaddling back home says they wanted no part of a murder charge. They were scared to death, but maybe they helped Joran get rid of the body, then they came up with the first cover lie, split up and Joran walked home. When J got home, he immediately let them know he'd arrived safely. This behavior makes no sense unless they were all involved in something terrible.


758 posted on 07/05/2005 4:22:55 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
This was on Fox several day ago, last week...that's a direct quote, the reporter used the word, 'hemorrhaging' referring to the Aruban tourist trade.

If this is so surely it would be in print somewhere. Where did the Fox reporter get his info. This would be a big story, in print somewhere.

759 posted on 07/05/2005 4:23:37 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Momto2

I don't recall that but I wasn't following this as closely at that point.


760 posted on 07/05/2005 4:24:50 PM PDT by Dolphy
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