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LIVE THREAD: SCHIAVO AUTOPSY PRESS CONFERENCE11:00 AM EST FROM CLEARWATER, FLA
ABC Action News Local Affiliate, Tampa, FL | June 15, 2005 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter

This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines. The death lobby shouldn't kid themselves. We are not going to forget...

LIVE THREAD of Terri Schiavo Autopsy Press Conference. It begins at 11:00 pm est from Clearwater, Florida at the Medical Examiner's Office right down the road from where Terri was starved & dehydrated to death.

The ME will have to address that hmmmmmmmm?

John Throgmartin, ME, here he goes. Dr. Steven Nelson joins him. HERE WE GO.


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To: Spiff
However, Terri didn't make that decision in this case.

Because she couldn't; and the laws of the State of Florida cover that situation, too.

If you don't like the laws, change them. But they are what they are. No need to call people who uphold the laws murderers and Nazis.

661 posted on 06/15/2005 10:04:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Hildy

Your an idiot Hildy! You have no idea what you are talking about! When I was in my early 20's I was very overweight and been dating this really bad guy. When he cheated on me and left me for another girl my heart was shattered as back than I thought I was in love. After the break up I decided to get my life together, make changes, and so I did. I got on Phen, Phen(which is no illegal) and I lost over 50 lbs. After I got off the drugs i maintained the new life i had wanted and got thinner over time, ate better and felt great. Many gals in their teens, and 20's do this. They want a different life, and they go out and do it. There is no proof that Terri had an eating disorder, and just because she had gotten in shape doesn't mean she had one. If all gals like Terri were said to have eating disorders there sure would be a lot of bulemic's out there!


662 posted on 06/15/2005 10:04:28 AM PDT by Halls
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To: Hildy

Your pathologist specifically said there was no evidence of myocardial infarction (heart attack) ...dispose of that notion.


664 posted on 06/15/2005 10:04:48 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: mzbzybee

Yes, you are! Yes, you are! Don't you see, you HAVE to be "pro death" to make HER feel morally superior to you!


665 posted on 06/15/2005 10:05:36 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Saundra Duffy
"Cause of death: Michael Schiavo and the two George's."

Cause of death: Hearsay.

666 posted on 06/15/2005 10:05:42 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: .38sw

"Calling someone with a differing opinion part of the "Death to Terri crowd" is kinda hateful, also."

It is, especially since many of us in the so called "Death to Terri" crowd are just people who think it is unbeleivably cruel and sadistic to keep somebody alive languishing in that state for 15 YEARS! We put ourselves in her shoes, and realize how disgusted and horrified we'd be by the thought of ever being used the way she is being used and exploited.

Letting her go was the right thing to do. You can go on and on about motives all day long, but chances are you won't find "pro death" as one of them. A lot of it is more like "What would I want if I was in her shoes?"

If you really are religious (as I am), and beleive in a soul and an afterlife, then you should be comfortable letting her go instead of languishing for 15 years in bed soiling herself and plastering her poor face all over the TV. If you can't, maybe you've got something else going on in your mind. What? I have no idea.

I realize that the "keep-her-alive-at-all-cost" folks, well, most of them, probably had sincere intentions and wanted the best for her. That doesn't make what they did right.

And the intellectual dishonesty and utter and complete speration from reality, well that is an even worse peoblem, and really showed on this issue. And Yes, it WILL cost the Republicans politically in the next election. People are alot smarter than you think. Personally, I could care less about the politics of it, I'm just sayin'.


667 posted on 06/15/2005 10:05:58 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: All
We allowed a human being to be dehydrated until she died. We would be arrested for doing that to an animal. The autopsy report said that she died of dehydration.

So now having an autopsy report should make us feel better?

To all of those who are so hard-hearted - to stand by and allow a child of God to die this way and do nothing - I have pity on your soul.

I pray that this will never happen to a child of yours.

668 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:01 AM PDT by LADY J
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To: Saundra Duffy
Do you think blind people should be deprived of food and water?

hmmmm....now are you saying her feeding tube was removed b/c she was "blind"???

669 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:17 AM PDT by the Deejay (The lady Deejay)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Exactly, yellow. It's never OK to deliberately starve someone to death. Allowing a person to die (which is controversialk in itself) is one thing, deliberately causing or ordering her death is something else again. And that is what these folks REFUSE to understand.


670 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:36 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Howlin

I guess, geesh


671 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:37 AM PDT by mzbzybee ((formerly, Beeline40 member since 3-20-1999))
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To: Howlin
It surely is; and in case you haven't noticed, more and more people aren't intimidated by the constant trashing people take who don't agree with the official "Terri was murdered" line have been getting for months.

In case you haven't noticed, more and more people aren't intimidated by the constant trashing people take who don't agree with the official "self-righteous religous nutjobs trying to save freakin' vegetable" line they have been getting for months.

672 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:39 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: jess35
I hope the "Blame Michael" group are hanging their heads in shame. I hope her parents are hangging their heads in shame. They (including many of YOU) have done nothing but lie about Schiavo and her husband.

No. It's OK to be proud. There's been post after post about the political connections between the doctor doing the autopsy and the Greer gang.
Personally, I expected nothing but a clean autopsy rather than an attempted murder discovery. Imagine the future of all those involved in this case if the autopsy declared the state murdered an innocent woman! It would never happen. Someone else would end up dead.

Get over your self righteousness, my friend. You have nothing to brag about. Everyone knows OJ killed his wife. Everyone knows Jackson is a homosexual pedophile, and everyone knows Terri was murdered. It's just one of those things. People aren't stupid.

673 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:49 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: mzbzybee

Someone (Hildy) was making a big deal out of the blindness - as if it's okay to get rid of blind people, like they're not human.


674 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:53 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schindler was murdered - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: Spiff

Gee Spiff, there's a creavtive reply.

What exactly is the point of a cemetary? To bury the remains of the dead, right?

Why?

Are we saying that without a cemetary burial, or a fancy grave marker, the loved ones of the deceased are incapable of memorializing them?

Nothing is stopping the Schindlers from going out and investing in a beautiful plot of land, and plopping a giant Marble/Granite Gravestone smack in the middle of it.

Nothing.


675 posted on 06/15/2005 10:06:55 AM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Saundra Duffy

I think if people are on life support (and in this case, the feeding tube was considered life support) and it was proven in a court of law that this was the wish of the patient (and it was proven (whether you agree or not), then the accepted legal manner of ending the body's life should be incorporated, which it was. Personally, I think it would be better done with drugs...making it quicker and easier...but your side won't let that happen either. So you've set up this straw dog of the evil dehydration.


676 posted on 06/15/2005 10:07:03 AM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: All

And still no takers.


677 posted on 06/15/2005 10:07:05 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: Howlin

You are correct -- the Nazi's euthanasia enthusiasts where not in the same league of propaganda as the SunCoastians and the Flordia Bar.


678 posted on 06/15/2005 10:07:28 AM PDT by bvw
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To: brumo914

I AGREE!! No matter if Terri was PVS, had an eating disorder, or if her HINO had never laid a hand on her SHE was put down like a dog. She was murdered because she was handicapped! I don't care if all the evindance in the world proves to me all what i believe to be lies, the fact is we are killing newborns with defects, people with defects, and the eldery, and we are calling it mercy! May God have mercy on us all for doing this!


679 posted on 06/15/2005 10:08:02 AM PDT by Halls
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To: Conservatrix
Even if she had lived an idyllic life with a loving husband who provided her with all the sweet joys of married life, and suddenly became as she was, and was then afforded all the rehabilitative care due any human being

Even if? She did. But just ignore that part.

I would be on the side of those who say no, it is wrong to kill a woman like that by dehydration.

You're entitled to your opinion, just like the rest of us are; but people all over this country are doing just that, as we type.

And it is THEIR choice, made by them and their guardians or families. Not anybody else's.

680 posted on 06/15/2005 10:08:17 AM PDT by Howlin
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