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LIVE THREAD: SCHIAVO AUTOPSY PRESS CONFERENCE11:00 AM EST FROM CLEARWATER, FLA
ABC Action News Local Affiliate, Tampa, FL | June 15, 2005 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter

This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines. The death lobby shouldn't kid themselves. We are not going to forget...

LIVE THREAD of Terri Schiavo Autopsy Press Conference. It begins at 11:00 pm est from Clearwater, Florida at the Medical Examiner's Office right down the road from where Terri was starved & dehydrated to death.

The ME will have to address that hmmmmmmmm?

John Throgmartin, ME, here he goes. Dr. Steven Nelson joins him. HERE WE GO.


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KEYWORDS: autopsy; clearwater; euthanasia; fl; link; logansrun; presser; schiavo; schiavoautopsy; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; whitewash
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To: spectre
None of us are here to gloat

B-O-L-O-G-N-A.

Michael, UnFelos, Greer, and their supporters have been doing nothing but gloating from the moment Terri died.

341 posted on 06/15/2005 8:59:08 AM PDT by TBP
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To: spectre
"They had to hydrate her brain again."

However, how would one sort out the damage done to the brain originally versus what was caused by the dehydration/starvation?

342 posted on 06/15/2005 8:59:32 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: cyn

"no evidence of long qt syndrome (as shown via genetic testing)"

FWIW, long QT can't be completely ruled out through genetic testing. I know this because we're getting ready to have our son tested. His pediatric electrophysiologist says 25 percent of people who have it will still come back negative on the genetic test simply because they haven't identified all of the gene mutations yet.


343 posted on 06/15/2005 8:59:58 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Howlin
Just how many people are you willing to call liars to convince yourselves you are right? Is there ANYBODY who isn't lying besides the Schindlers?

Even if the coroner's report is 100 percent accurate, that still does not justify killing Terri Schiavo by dehydration/starvation. Those things discovered in the autopsy were discovered AFTER she was killed. They were not sure BEFORE she was killed. We should always err on the side of caution that we're not killing a living, human being. If she had no feelings, no brain activity, she was blind, etc. WHAT DID IT HURT to allow her normal body processes to keep her alive!? Why did Michael aided and abetted by Judge Greer have to ACTIVELY put her to death by removing hydration and nutrition? Why!? Even with all of this evidence, no one can be sure that she was there or not. Her body continued to live on, albeit with aided hydration and nutrition. She was not on "life support" - she was alive and may have been functioning at some level undetectable by cutting her body open AFTER she'd been dehydrated/starved to death. This report actually proves a great number of people WRONG as they said over and over that she had NO brain and her brain cavity was only filled with cerebrospinal fluid. If she actually had a brain, there is a chance that there was some function.

But even beyond all of that, those of us who believe in protecting life believe that each person possesses a soul. Who is to say if Terri's soul was still intact or not until her body ceased functioning? Does the coroner's report include any data about that? Obviously not, but again we should err on the side of protecting life.

344 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:03 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: the Deejay
Well, here we are and now those same ones are slapping down the autopsy

And just wait until you see what they do to Mark Fuhrman is he doens't "tow the line."

345 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:05 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; floriduh voter; Halls

I do not agree with you......Terri communicated and wanted to live. This garbage of a report, STILL does not tell the truth. I believe in my heart, it was twisted , and made to say what they wanted it to say. Listen to the sound clips of her right after they removed the tubes. You can KEEP the ol AUTOPSY reports, I will believe TERRI herself!! She communicated more to America in the VIDEOS.....than any report!
A side note here, I spent several years expending energy on trying to help Terri. Part of America as I know it, died when Terri was put to death. I have not been able to bounce back at all. I have lost faith in many who said they were " telling the truth". I believe the Schindlers, and I believed Terri"!
Putting my pretty blue flame suit on and sipping tea!


346 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:07 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: amdgmary; tutstar; floriduh voter

ok, they did cut the transmission. and I'm being asked, "when are we leaving" -- later, gators.


347 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:08 AM PDT by cyn (it's sarcasm, but jim king really said it.)
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To: Howlin

Howlin, I'm not saying others said it WAS appropriate, so don't misunderstand my statement, I am speaking for myself only.

Glad we have a point of agreement. :)


348 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:13 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Howlin

Amen to that!


349 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:17 AM PDT by jess35
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To: cajungirl
This forum is going to go down and it will be because of this case and these threads.

Oh, some would love that, but it's not going to happen.

350 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: MEGoody

I am sure that there is some kind of calculations they do.


351 posted on 06/15/2005 9:00:36 AM PDT by mzbzybee ((formerly, Beeline40 member since 3-20-1999))
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To: Bones75
(*plugging ears, squinting eyes*) LA LA LA LA too many facts!!! LA LA LA LA! Michael Schiavo beat his wife to death then finished the job years later! It's a big conspiracy!! LA LA LA!

Yup, that's about it.

352 posted on 06/15/2005 9:01:05 AM PDT by Kretek (WPPFF)
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To: floriduh voter

My prediction is that everyone not a single person on FR will change their opinion of this Schiavo mess based on whatever they release.

You will either declare a whitewash or vindication depending on what side you are on.

Personally, I think the lady should have been given to her parents care to take care of her since there was no written instructions. But, I do not think she was "conscious" as I would define that. I personally would not want to be kept alive in that state.

Maybe the best thing that can come of this whole fiasco is that all Freepers can make sure that they have valid living wills that clearly spell out there beliefs re: end-of-life decisions.


353 posted on 06/15/2005 9:01:21 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: TBP

That's an out right LIE. PROVE anyone gloated. Put up or shut up.


354 posted on 06/15/2005 9:01:52 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Howlin

what makes you think that mark furhman is going to come out on the he murdered her side. I think he is a great writer, I have his books. Dont assume that he is going to come out on the abuse side of this case.


355 posted on 06/15/2005 9:02:16 AM PDT by mzbzybee ((formerly, Beeline40 member since 3-20-1999))
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To: cajungirl

Define "go down".


356 posted on 06/15/2005 9:02:31 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Howlin

I am anxious to see what his book turns up. Independent investigation may help some on either side put questions to rest.


357 posted on 06/15/2005 9:02:33 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: fatnotlazy

Yup. And I guess I most not have an agenda, since I really didn't have a problem with her parents taking care of her, for their sake. Again it is the total inability of the right to connect with reality on this issue.

They way things have been going lately, with some exceptions, FReepers, DUmmies, you're all the same. You just have different issues you can't come to grips with. The DUmmies are obviously much worse, but still.. just more of the same. Anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, facts mean nothing, it's all a big conspiracy. Yadda Yadda Yadda, I've seen it all before. Thank God I live by common sense and not ideology, or I'd be in the same boat.


358 posted on 06/15/2005 9:02:47 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: Hildy

(((My BP is already up. I know people feel strongly about this issue, but to just make up lies and accusations and threats is just beyond my comprehension.)))

And no one would know that better than you.


359 posted on 06/15/2005 9:03:05 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Slip18
When I listened to this ME, Seems he brought up what could have been the cause of her inital collapse and then discounted it.....potassium, caffine, bulemia.

Just seems this report raises the same questions of Terri's inital collapse.

360 posted on 06/15/2005 9:03:06 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (My family wishes I would cook a meal like they have at Gitmo!)
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