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LIVE THREAD: SCHIAVO AUTOPSY PRESS CONFERENCE11:00 AM EST FROM CLEARWATER, FLA
ABC Action News Local Affiliate, Tampa, FL | June 15, 2005 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter

This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines. The death lobby shouldn't kid themselves. We are not going to forget...

LIVE THREAD of Terri Schiavo Autopsy Press Conference. It begins at 11:00 pm est from Clearwater, Florida at the Medical Examiner's Office right down the road from where Terri was starved & dehydrated to death.

The ME will have to address that hmmmmmmmm?

John Throgmartin, ME, here he goes. Dr. Steven Nelson joins him. HERE WE GO.


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To: jess35
The autopsy has answered nothing. Autopsy can not confirm PVS. They don't know cause of death. They can not rule out a minimally conscious state.

We have learned that there was no heart damage but we will never know what stopped her heart for a short period of time once in her lifetime for a brief period or whether or not she was minimally conscious because the state ordered her death. That we know for sure.

But you're a smart guy Jess. How much cortex is required to be minimally conscious?

221 posted on 06/15/2005 8:40:56 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: floriduh voter

Were YOU there? By your standard, anyone who wasn't there should voice no opinion.


222 posted on 06/15/2005 8:40:57 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: downtoliberalism
"I hope the "Blame Michael" group are hanging their heads in shame"

I nor anyone else on this Thread knows how Terri got in her initial state..The concerns most have is with how she was made to suffer in death..I do blame those who could have made her death more humane.Be it Michael or whoever..Terri died like a disowned dog.That is a fact. If you doubt this try not drinking liquids for several days.
223 posted on 06/15/2005 8:41:35 AM PDT by possumdawg (There are three types of people- those that can count and those who cannot)
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To: All

This is foxnews.com report on the autopsy results announcement:

Autopsy: Schiavo Was Not Abused

Wednesday, June 15, 2005

Associated Press

LARGO, Fla. — Terri Schiavo did not suffer any trauma prior to her 1990 collapse and her brain was about half of normal size when she died, according to results released Wednesday of an autopsy conducted on the severely brain-damaged woman.

Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin concluded that there was no evidence of strangulation or other trauma leading to her collapse. He also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.

Autopsy results on the 41-year-old brain damaged woman were made public Wednesday, more than two months after Schiavo's death ended an internationally watched right-to-die battle that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.

She died from dehydration, he said.

He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

Thogmartin said that Schiavo's brain was about half of its expected size when she died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed.

"The brain weighed 615 grams, roughly half of the expected weight of a human brain. ... This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."


224 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:03 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: jwalsh07

Most demoKrats don't have 'half-a-brain' and they are walking, or staggering around....AKA: Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid et al...


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225 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:42 AM PDT by GRRRRR (I've Had it with the Islamofascists...time to put em away for good!)
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To: Howlin
Did you not hear the ME say that physicial therapy of ANY kind would not have reversed her original trauma??

I did.

He made it very clear indeed.

226 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:45 AM PDT by the Deejay (The lady Deejay)
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To: Halls

Then why did the parents testify to it at the malpractrice trial? They lied?


227 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:48 AM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: floriduh voter

I thought one comment that he made was a bit strange or maybe I misunderstood.

He talked of two instances where Terri was supposedly drugged, supposedly after the PARENTS had left her room??? I thought the witnesses said it was after MS left the room.

I believe those two instances were about a year ago and over two years ago. The ME said no drugs were found in her body. Would drugs be expected to be found in her body from that long ago?

Maybe I misunderstood this, but it just seemed a very strange thing to say. Maybe someone can clarify.


228 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:51 AM PDT by Texas Deb
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To: possumdawg

Rush yesterday said we treat the terrorist at Gitmo better than we ever treated Terri Schiavo.


229 posted on 06/15/2005 8:42:55 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: DrewsDad
Terri's life was Greer-ended.

Wow -- how perfectly and sadly stated.

230 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:13 AM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: Howlin
Proof of whitewash is that Quinlan couldn't breathe on her own. There's no way to compare Quinlan and Terri Schiavo. Worse than Quinlan is an outright lie. Terri was alert and aware, Quinlan wasn't.

"She was worse than Karen Ann Quinlan, per the medical examiner." Believe these shills if you want to.

231 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:19 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: Hildy; jess35

Enough with the "you should be ashamed of yourselves". People cared about the life of another human being, no shame in that.

Not to mention, the incredible condescension in saying that.


232 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:20 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: floriduh voter

I turned it off FV. Couldn't listen to anymore garbage. Keep me posted though, I have to go out for a while.


233 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:28 AM PDT by Halls
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To: chgomac
Physical therapy? DENIED Occupational therapy? DENIED Permission to go outside of her room? DENIED Unlimited access to her Mother's comforting care? DENIED

Those who work in rehab (...RN's, OT's PT's, MD's, ect...) know very well that these people may never function as "normal", but will try to make them comfortable, and help their quality of life in any way they can.

In whatever state they are, especially if they are in "stable" condition.

She was not "dying" until they pulled her hydration.

We are not to judge the "quality" of life, that's up to God. Especially if she was Catholic-Christian.

Others who don't subscribe to that thought, will do otherwise.

(flame suit on)

234 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:28 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." .........Jerry Fletcher)
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To: cyn

[why the acetaminophen in her screen ... ]

That would probably be for the severe menstrual cramps...
/sarcasm


235 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:30 AM PDT by Dasaji (Are the voices in my head bothering you?)
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To: jess35
They don't....but you can videotape mom holding a balloon in front of her face and moving it as she moves her head....and fool a lot of idiots.

And you can get a lot of morons to endorse the state ordering the deaths of citizens.

Like you.

236 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: amdgmary

a cont -- she did eat a large italian meal that day. again, no laxatives in the house, no lax abuse described ... no ev bulimia

a -- ... and in 1997 -- a lot of records were destroyed.

repeats investigation will remain open


237 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:46 AM PDT by cyn (it's sarcasm, but jim king really said it.)
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To: floriduh voter

I am hearing a lot of hoof-beats. I live in East Texas. I am sure there are zebras on their way.


238 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:53 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: floriduh voter
I was all for Terri living.

I was just saying why the tea thing may have been mentioned.

In fact, this was whitewash autopsy.... of that I have no doubt AT ALL. Pinellas county is CORRUPT!! Jim King is as evil as George Soros and HINOS lawyer should be tarred and feathered!!

HINO is a pig or worse.

239 posted on 06/15/2005 8:43:55 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: jess35

The only reason my head would be hanging in shame is becuase of the legal murder in Florida.

Michael Schiavo is still a pos and I hope he enjoys the same joys of dehydration that he gave to his poor wife.


240 posted on 06/15/2005 8:44:06 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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