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Kids' Book on Evolution Stirs Censorship Debate
Star Tribune ^ | May 12, 2005 | Jill Burcum

Posted on 05/12/2005 5:30:04 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

With its lavish illustrations of colorful, cuddly critters, "Our Family Tree" looks like the kind of book kids keep by their bedside to read again and again.

But when its St. Paul author, Lisa Westberg Peters, planned to talk about the book in classroom appearances today and Friday at a Monticello, Minn., elementary school, educators got cold feet.

"Our Family Tree" focuses on evolution, the scientific explanation for human origins that some believe contradicts biblical teachings. Peters' appearances, which were to focus on helping kids learn how to write, were canceled.

"It's a cute book. There's nothing wrong with it. We just don't need that kind of debate," said Brad Sanderson, principal at Pinewood Elementary.

Monticello's assistant superintendent, Jim Johnson, said school officials made a reasonable request of Peters to talk about writing but leave the discussion about evolution to teachers. When she refused, the visit was scuttled.

Across the country, there has been increasing opposition to teaching evolution. Peters said officials at two other Minnesota school districts have asked her not to talk about the book in visits over the past year.

The author believes that she is being censored -- something the schools deny.

"Once you start censoring, it's a slippery slope. Are geology and physics next? You have to stop it right away," said Peters, who won a Minnesota Book Award for "Our Family Tree," published in 2003.

In Kansas, the State Board of Education is expected to require that teachers tell students that evolution is controversial. Bills have been introduced in Georgia and Alabama to allow educators to question evolution in the classroom and offer alternatives.

Last year, the Grantsburg, Wis., school district drew widespread attention when a new policy urged teachers to explore alternative theories to evolution.

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To: RadioAstronomer

I was being sarcastic. I know that some discussion of evolution is on a much higher scientific level than my examples. However, much of what is produced as "scientific" material for children is simply idiotic, and cutesy artwork or clever computer animation doesn't make it anything other than frankly fictitious.


21 posted on 05/12/2005 7:04:34 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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To: edweena
You do realize, I hope, that the scientific method is a joke.


Scientific Method

Purpose: Explain topic or need for research.
Question: Put your topic into a question that will be answered by your research.
Research: Find out background information about your topic so that you can predict an answer to your question. (Be sure to prejudice yourself before you begin.)
Hypothesis: After you've done your research, make a prediction as to what you think the answer to your question is. This is your hypothesis. (This part brings in the grant $$$$. Remember: too many incorrect hypotheses will limit future funding.)
Experiment: This is the actual experiment that you will conduct. List your materials and procedure including your constants (control) and variable.
Analysis: This is the data you have collected. Display it in tables, graphs, and be sure to include a significant portion of anecdotal evidence and single, unrepeatable occurrences. If your data does not fit your (grant funded) hypothesis, adjust your norm and eliminate "erroneous" data and anomalies.
Conclusion:State why your hypothesis was correct or incorrect. (Warning: It had better be correct. If it's not, adjust data to fit.)

The most widely accepted form of popular science is "consensus science". After all, if 3 out of 4 agree, then it must be so.

If the scientific community wants to regain respect from the majority of "common people", it must abandon the prejudicial "scientific method", it must balk at "consensus science", it must reject conclusions based in mathematical theory and it must return to peer review of repeatable laboratory experiment as the sole determinant of conclusions.

Disclaimer: The above sarcasm is directed primarily towards the nonproductive branches of science, such as ecology, paleontology and meteorology.
22 posted on 05/12/2005 7:04:58 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Tax-chick
All you have to do is draw the pictures: Pine tree ... pine tree with legs ... cow covered with pine needles ... cow.

The imagery you have created is too funny.

23 posted on 05/12/2005 7:09:14 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Tax-chick
I was being sarcastic.

LOL! Good. :-)

24 posted on 05/12/2005 7:11:10 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer; TaxRelief

Anoreth could draw it :-).

But seriously, I've read enough of your comments, RA, to know that you can produce a meaningful argument for your position.

However, the fact the subject of this article is crying "Censorship!" because she's not allowed to promote her book to a captive audience of school children suggests that she reasons at the "cow covered with pine needles" level.


25 posted on 05/12/2005 7:18:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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To: wallcrawlr
"Our Family Tree" focuses on evolution, the scientific explanation for human origins

Hehehehe. That's stretching the definition of "science" to the breaking point.

26 posted on 05/12/2005 7:21:58 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: DannyTN
She should be censored. She is promoting a particular religion, not science.

*Yawn* You creationists constantly call the TOE a "religion" without any support for your claim.

It's getting old. Find a new dead horse to beat.

27 posted on 05/12/2005 7:22:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: TaxRelief
The bible is a great example of a book that is truly censored in public elememtary schools.

Yup. Some diversities are not fit for celebration.

28 posted on 05/12/2005 7:23:24 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wallcrawlr
Once you start censoring, it's a slippery slope. Are geology and physics next?

I can hardly wait to see her book where the cuddly critters set out to teach quantum physics.

29 posted on 05/12/2005 7:24:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Why did the phrase "Dumb as a box of rocks" suddenly pop into my head?


30 posted on 05/12/2005 7:24:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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To: wallcrawlr

Sounds to me like that school opted for

Political Correctness ..

Just my 2 cents


31 posted on 05/12/2005 7:26:43 AM PDT by Tungenchek
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To: Modernman

And why is it so important to evolutionists to indoctrinate children with evolutionary beliefs?

Why did this writer have a chip on their shoulder and insist on talking to the kids about evolution instead of writing?

Patrick Henry has posted links to plans to indoctrinate public school kindergardeners with evolutionary beliefs before. Why is that necessary?


32 posted on 05/12/2005 7:30:09 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Tax-chick
But seriously, I've read enough of your comments, RA, to know that you can produce a meaningful argument for your position.

Thank you! :-) You honor me.

However, the fact the subject of this article is crying "Censorship!" because she's not allowed to promote her book to a captive audience of school children suggests that she reasons at the "cow covered with pine needles" level.

Here is where I disagree. From the above article: "We just don't need that kind of debate" does lend itself to an air of censorship.

33 posted on 05/12/2005 7:32:19 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: DannyTN
evolutionary beliefs?

The theory of evolution is a scientific theory, not a "belief".

34 posted on 05/12/2005 7:33:44 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer

I disagree. If the purpose of the person's appearance was to teach writing (and why can't the regular teachers teach writing?), then introducing a disputed scientific topic produces no benefit for the school.

The writer is free to hawk her book at Wal-mart. Every major publication and media outlet presupposes "evolution," often at a "whale hopping on its tail" level of simplicity. Expanding the definition of "censorship" doesn't benefit anyone.


35 posted on 05/12/2005 7:37:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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To: edweena

That is the goal of the IDer's and creationists in this country. Better to sacrifice education for ignorance, so more people receive Salvation. Sounds like some Muslim theocracies to me. As I, and others, have said on other threads, creationism is a cancer in Conservatism.


36 posted on 05/12/2005 7:39:39 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Tax-chick
disputed scientific topic

Disputed by whom?

I would put money on the table that if the subject was about "global warming" the author would have been welcomed with open arms.

37 posted on 05/12/2005 7:40:33 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Campion; St. Johann Tetzel; Frank Sheed

Campion's Law in action!


38 posted on 05/12/2005 7:41:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Disputed by the school system, obviously. A fluff over global warming would be just another ploy to disguise the fact that the school is playing games instead of teaching reading, writing, and math.

My children have all learned to read and write without the appearance of a single saleswoman author. Astonishing!

39 posted on 05/12/2005 7:46:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Every day is Mother's Day when you have James the Wonder Baby!)
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To: DannyTN
And why is it so important to evolutionists to indoctrinate children with evolutionary beliefs?

What you call indoctrination is nothing more than science education.

Why did this writer have a chip on their shoulder and insist on talking to the kids about evolution instead of writing?

She wanted to do both. If the school felt the subject matter of her book was innappropriate, perhaps they should not have invited her.

40 posted on 05/12/2005 7:46:33 AM PDT by Modernman ("Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde)
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