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DeLay Apologizes for Schiavo Case Rhetoric
AP via Yahoo ^ | April 13, 2005 | Terence Hunt

Posted on 04/13/2005 8:21:32 PM PDT by cyncooper

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay apologized Wednesday for using overheated rhetoric on the day Terri Schiavo died, but refused to say whether he supports impeachment of the judges who ruled in her case.

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At a crowded news conference in his Capitol office, DeLay addressed remarks he made in the hours after the brain-damaged Florida woman died on March 31. "I said something in an inartful way and I shouldn't have said it that way and I apologize for saying it that way," DeLay told reporters.

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DeLay seemed at pains to soften, if slightly, his rhetoric of March 31, when Schiavo died despite an extraordinary political and legal effort to save her life.

"I believe in an independent judiciary. I repeat, of course I believe in an independent judiciary," DeLay said.

At the same time, he added, the Constitution gives Congress power to oversee the courts.

"We set up the courts. We can unset the courts. We have the power of the purse," DeLay said.

Asked whether he favors impeachment for any of the judges in the Schiavo case, he did not answer directly.

Instead, he referred reporters to an earlier request he made to the House Judiciary Committee to look into "judicial activism" and Schiavo's case in particular.

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KEYWORDS: apology; cowardaceunderfire; delay; grovelingissafer; schiavo; thewormturns
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To: EternalVigilance

That is as big a load of garbage as I have ever heard. Taxpayers would have been left with the costs after the initial political capital was consumed and the spotlight was turned off. I don't believe anything these people say since they have been caught in numerous lies.


881 posted on 04/15/2005 1:24:15 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: EternalVigilance

While only God makes the ultimate judgment men must decide how their resources are to be spent. TRIAGE rules are in effect wrt to medical care and as such TS was at the bottom of the priority list.

I know this while be a shock to you but we do not have INFINITE resources.


882 posted on 04/15/2005 1:26:29 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: spectre

I also can leave it at that without making a petty comment at the end.

Good Day.


883 posted on 04/15/2005 1:30:44 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

In my opinion, it was equally cruel, if not more so, to disallow her therapy once she started improving, especially when the $$ was there to pay for the rehab. I don't understand why Michael didn't have the experimental implant removed according to the doctor's instructions. We are looking at this from two opposing points of view, and I doubt they will merge at this point.

I'm trying to be polite about this. I see we have a difference of opinion, and there's not much point continuing the discussion further. To do so would only cause more acrimony on these threads. That's not my intention.


885 posted on 04/15/2005 1:37:05 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: beyond the sea

That's really rich, coming from you.


886 posted on 04/15/2005 1:38:09 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It costs upwards of $80,000 a year for my Dad's care...for 12 years and counting. And that's not counting what Depends cost :~( Not one single dime is paid by medicare. ZERO!

If he didn't have the money, he would share a urine stenched room with another person on assistance, and probably just lay there.

Some people think the Gov't will take care of them, no matter what. They never stop to think what the quality of care will be if they don't have the money to pay their own way. It's not pretty.

sw

887 posted on 04/15/2005 1:42:39 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The SBR Rules!)
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To: mercyme
So in your long rambling statement you are basically stating the entire report given to Gov Bush is a lie? The testimony of the Schindlers not allowing her to die even if she wanted? The fact that she had no bedsores for 13 years? You offer no proof, no statement of fact, but rather supposition based on what you 'feel' may be the right answer.

Look I don't know why the nurse got a restraining order. Neither do you. And frankly I don't care. You're making suppositions based on one woman, who for all we know, could be crazy as a loon. Your entire argument is now based on one woman who supposedly got a restraining order for reasons that have not been verified over an official report to the Governor and court testimony under oath.

But the conspiracy is all on Michael. Right....

If you're going to make arguments please provide facts to back them up. In all the innuendoes, supposedlys, or may have beens, I have yet to see one fact provided by you.

888 posted on 04/15/2005 1:43:29 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: EllaMinnow

It sure is thick in here.

All the lies...

Such a shame.


889 posted on 04/15/2005 1:44:39 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Ohioan from Florida

I don't have much real information about what happened after the initial attempts at rehabilitation. But given the results of the CAT scan and other tests there was no hope. Once the process of degeneration sets in there is nothing likely to stop or reverse it short of divine intervention.

I appreciate you trying to get your point across without rancor or insults and just wish others would adopt that tactic. Having lost a beautiful wife (whom I loved beyond measure) to death I am in no way a "lover of death" nor one who would give up on someone without cause. It is not my evil nature (though there is enough evil within me) which makes me believe TS was beyond hope.


890 posted on 04/15/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: spectre

No it is not pretty. In fact, for many it is sheer horror.
It seems as though those who have actually experienced episodes like this are much less sure this was a "murder" and more a hopeless situation. My experience was losing my wife when she was 43 to cancer. I know without a doubt she would despise anyone trying to do to her what was done with TS for all those years.

I love her far to much to adopt the path of the Schindlers and drag out her death one hour too long. But to many here I'm a heartless lover of death.


891 posted on 04/15/2005 1:52:44 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: spectre

Those people in those "urine stenched rooms, as you put it" have just as much value as your Dad.

If one goes into a nursing home and finds that condition, they need to report it. It is usually taken care of, at least here in Oklahoma.

I work to fight for laws that require better nursing care and do things along those lines. Many people do not have the money to take care of someone in that state, as a society, we have a moral obligation to take care of those individuals.


892 posted on 04/15/2005 2:10:07 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Heartless lover of death? No, kind sir, you loved your wife.

I honestly believe that those who say we are heartless lovers of death, or evil people, have never had to face terminal conditions of their loved ones. Terri's case brought people by the droves to set up living wills. That was a good thing.

I don't want my husband to suffer the strain of taking care of me for years and years with no improvement or end in sight. It's a fate worse than death. I love him too much to will that on him.

I am so sorry you lost your beautiful wife, especially at such a young age. God Bless, sw

893 posted on 04/15/2005 2:10:09 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The SBR Rules!)
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To: yellowdoghunter
You get what you pay for...and when it's all gone, you get what you don't pay for, which isn't much.

sw

894 posted on 04/15/2005 2:15:23 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The SBR Rules!)
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To: spectre

Thank you for your kind words. I feel the same way about having my sons put in such a state because of me.

It is difficult for me to understand how those who claim to be Christians have such a fear of death. What could be more glorious than to experience the wonders of heaven which put to shame even the most extravagent pleasures of the material world?


895 posted on 04/15/2005 2:20:21 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: spectre

That is why I fight to change those laws. And I think we will be hearing more about that as the baby boomers start retiring, etc....

As a society, especially as Christians, we have a moral obligation to take care of those that are sick, elderly, young, and disabled. I may not always like how that is done but it is our moral obligation.

I have and currently do help take care of someone who has no hope for recovery. But I would never, in my wildest dreams, starve them to death for weeks. Not because I am selfish and want them to stay around. I pray that God has mercy and does not make them suffer but I end that prayer for His will to be done. He will call them home when He is ready.


896 posted on 04/15/2005 2:22:42 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"It is difficult for me to understand how those who claim to be Christians have such a fear of death. What could be more glorious than to experience the wonders of heaven which put to shame even the most extravagent pleasures of the material world?"

Amen!

897 posted on 04/15/2005 2:27:20 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The SBR Rules!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

What is so hard for people to understand that starving someone to death for weeks is wrong? I know it is hard seeing someone you love in that condition but you must pray for strength. God will see you through it. I never want the cause of death to be listed as starvation on someone I love.


898 posted on 04/15/2005 2:29:34 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

If death is wonderful, why do people fight like heck to stay alive? We are not afraid of death. As Christians, we know there is true life after death. Most on FR are just against starving someone to death for weeks.

I mean, should we all just stop eating today because death is so glorious? God will call you home when He is ready.


899 posted on 04/15/2005 2:32:07 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (FR is so popular that people repost our thoughts on different message boards! It is an honor!)
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To: spectre
"I don't want my husband to suffer the strain of taking care of me for years and years with no improvement or end in sight. It's a fate worse than death. I love him too much to will that on him.

Okaaay, so then, how WOULD you want to die, IF you were NOT terminal and but you were alert, as Terri wasn't terminal and but she was alert? Lethal injection, suffocation, bullet to the head, or starvation & dehydration, like Terri?? What would be YOUR choice???

You don't think she wasn't alert?? You need to check out this video:

http://hometown.aol.com/GordonWWatts/myhomepage/ConversationWithTerri.wmv

She's not only alert, SHE REMEMBERED!!!!!

900 posted on 04/15/2005 2:45:50 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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