Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns

TNL ^ | 04/09/2005 | The National Ledger

[ClintonBeGone]

Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns

Casey Nethercott is the leader of a militia group dubbed the Arizona Guard and said during a TV interview broadcast on Friday, "When this Minuteman thing is over, if it doesn't work, we're going to come out here and close the border with machine guns."

KVOA TV-4 in Tucson carried a report on Friday by reporter Nancy Perla that toured the group's compound that sits along the Arizona/Mexico border near Douglas, Arizona. The camera showed two older model American made SUV's, both painted black, that Nethercott claims are "armored vehicles" with "quarter-inch steel in them." Pointing again to the vehicles, Nethercott continued, "You'll get killed without them, here's been so many shootouts out here."

The camera then shows a concrete block wall riddled with bullet holes that Nethercott says came from drug smugglers. The report titled "Mimicman Projects" by KVOA calls them copy cats and says the project could begin on July 4, though Nethercott would release no details.

The Minuteman Project stated through Chris Simcox, who is an organizer for the project, that they don't support a violent solution. "I think anytime you go to that length to take the law into your own hands, you're asking for trouble," Simcox told KVOA.

The armed militia supports the Minuteman Project, but says that if they fail to close the border to illegal border crossers, his group will step in and be heavily armed to do the job.

[john drake]

It's an important series of issues that needs attention; the MM and more extreme elements are a symptom of a wide range of problems, most of which are not being attended to and they are indeed caused by lawlessness on both sides of the border. America's unceasing desire for drugs fuels a large part of border abuse, however too many people on both sides make a fortune from the business, and I suspect enough U.S. government officials and law enforcers get a piece off the top that it isn't going to any anytime soon. Think about it, if we really wanted to stop the drug trafficking in this country by securing the border(s), don't you think it would dry to a trickle? The worst part about the drug problem other than the moral issue, is the fact that so much crime, violent crime, stems from it.

The next illegal activity is the employers who hire all the illegal aliens and look the other way because they're cheap, work hard, and you don't have to pay benefits. All these items, plus no unions, increases the profits of the employers and indirectly can impact the wages for similar jobs for Americans and LEGAL immigrants. To make matters worse, you have the usual whorish politicians who want to pass legislation to allow illegals schooling, medical care, legal defense, etc. in effect to "buy" their votes when the next round of amnesty calls roll into effect.

As an 8th generation American, I am disgusted by the whole mess; illegals getting in and making a mess of our public sector systems; schooling, housing, medical care, corrections, etc. Further, by greedy employers looking to increase their profits on the backs of illegals and politicians who'll whore their way into anyone's "needy" situation on my dollar. If governments and nations are sovereign, then why the hell are we playing patsy to the Mexican government, which has been corrupt since time immemorial, whose economy is based on oil and dope, and who doesn't give a damn about it's own people, using the U.S. as it's "steam release" within it's own pressure cooker? The future and it's affects on America are already happening, and it will be profound. The America I knew as a youth, 35 years ago, has disappeared in the last twenty years and will continue to change, although I'm not sure for the better, as the government continues to refuse to listen to it's legal citizens on issues of immigration (from all over the third world not just south of the border)and its related impacts.

This is an issue that will not whither, regardless of the MSM; average Americans do feel bewildered, bothered and scared by what's going on. Politicians of America, wake up and listen to your constituents before it is too late. I know I am concerned about the future for my own children; how about you?

[Czar]

"Why the hate filled invectives?"

"I would trade a disloyal presidential back stabbing traitor like Spiff for one or two principled Harrowups any day." 174 posted on 04/10/2005 6:44:39 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone"

Now please explain again how all of you FROBLs/SOILs/CALs are so crystal pure when it comes to avoiding personal attacks.

SOIL member ClintonBeGone's response: *crickets*

And yet you wonder why you and the rest of the hyena pack have zero credibility.

Pathetic...

[Boot Hill]

"In my part of the world we call that being part of the jelly donut brigade."

In your part of the world, it would be called "brigada del anillo de espuma de la jalea"!

--Boot Hill

[spodefly]

If you wish to see how truly bad things have gotten, then come look at this thread.

There is no way for this site to deny that it is allowing a certain specific group of poster free reign to make any libelous comments they wish against the MMP and against other members of this forum.

See my #261 for my position on the matter.

[Boot Hill]

"You would have risen to the top of the ranks, IMO, if you were an east german border guard the during the cold war."

Thanks for bumping this thread. Everytime you do it, you provide another 18 lurkers with the opportunity to read the truth about who among us stands ready to defend American sovereignty and secure our borders from invasion, versus those who choose to stand alongside the criminal aliens, Vincente Fox, Aztlan, La Raza, MEChA, MALDEF, ACLU, LULAC and the international terrorist gang MS-13.

Thanks for making your vote clear with by posting your slurs.

--Boot Hill

[ClintonBeGone]

I know I am concerned about the future for my own children; how about you?

Honestly, I lose no sleep over it. History has shown this country is a better place because of immigration.

[Bennett46]

"You get wood just saying that, don't you."



You are sickening. Please stop this nonsense, now.

[Dane]

There is no way for this site to deny that it is allowing a certain specific group of poster free reign to make any libelous comments they wish against the MMP and against other members of this forum.

Sheesh first hillary/govt. union talking points, now hillary/trial lawyer talking points.

[Ben Ficklin]

Thanks for bumping this thread so 18 lurkers can find out how the illegals will be gunned down as they cross the border.

[john drake]

I would agree with you if you use the qualifier "controlled" immigration. What you have now is an invasion, don't kid yourself. I live in a major U.S. metropolitan area (3rd largest city) that has gone from 200,000 Hispanics twenty five years ago to 1 million and counting..I hope they desire to assimilate, otherwise you have the potential of balkanization of the U.S. And don't kid yourself about the Mexican governmentlooking long term to play political and geographic games with this issue, they've already started. Maybe you live in an area that isn't as affected....yet.

[FBD]

>"This is another such subject where you need you be better informed."<

-Ben, I've been a member of enough conservative groups, (Like the N.R.A.) to know how lefties malign ANY group on the right. I've seen the N.R.A. maligned with every so called Nazi nut-job right wing militia group there is. I recall how David Duke was/is a Republican. I guess I should start ass-uming the entire Republican Party is racist because of his affiliation. That also is a damn lie.

Now, Ive talked to guys who are down there in AZ, and I've got friends and family in Yuma. I also know how the liberal media just loves to smear anyone on the right side of the isle, especially any supporter of the second amendment. There are lies, and then there are damn lies, and any "conservative" ought to know better.

"The groups within are always connected thru leadership. Sometimes overtly, sometimes covertly, sometimes as a matter of fact. Sometimes they are enemies. Even as enemies, they take cues from each other..."

-Thanks for that reminder. I'll keep that in mind, next election.

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[FBD]

http://www.kfi640.com/time_dooropen.html

'Who Left the Door Open?'
[snip]
"...TIME estimates, based on longtime government formulas for calculating how many elude capture, that as many as 190,000 illegals from countries other than Mexico have melted into the U.S. population so far this year.

The border patrol, which is run by the Department of Homeland Security, refuses to break down OTMs by country. But local law officers, ranchers and others who confront the issue daily tell TIME they have encountered not only a wide variety of Latin Americans (from Guatemala, El Salvador, Brazil, Nicaragua and Venezuela) but also intruders from Afghanistan, Bulgaria, Russia and China as well as Egypt, Iran and Iraq.

Law-enforcement authorities believe the mass movement of illegals, wherever they are from, offers the perfect cover for terrorists seeking to enter the U.S., especially since tighter controls have been imposed at airports."

[Boot Hill]

"Thanks for bumping this thread so 18 lurkers can find out how the illegals will be gunned down as they cross the border."

And what they will find is a phony story from a phony web site posted by a phony conservative and cheered on by those who choose to stand alongside the criminal aliens, Vincente Fox, Aztlan, La Raza, MEChA, MALDEF, ACLU, LULAC and the international terrorist gang MS-13.

--Boot Hill

[Ben Ficklin]

No what they will find is one group who supports a guest worker plan and another group who wants mass deportations and are willing to murder for that.

[ozarkgirl]

The rumors wrong, and I am armed.

Hahaha, why does this not scare me?? Because I'm armed too. Duh, all Americans should have some form of self defense in a worst care scenario. I am an absolute believer of training with that firearm. A person is completely useless and a help to someone invading their home if they do not have an adequate knowledge and training with their firearms.

[Marine Inspector]

Thanks for making your vote clear with by posting your slurs.

Slurs are all then can post. Honesty, truth and civility are outside their realm of comprehension.

[Marine Inspector]

all Americans should have some form of self defense in a worst care scenario. I am an absolute believer of training with that firearm. A person is completely useless and a help to someone invading their home if they do not have an adequate knowledge and training with their firearms.

Agreed.

[ozarkgirl]

Holy cow, I was just catching up on the posts. They're like a pack of hyenas! No decency, no discussion, just attack mode. Goodness!

[Boot Hill]

"...and another group who wants mass deportations..."

The truth shall set you free and your admittion that you are in full support of allowing criminal aliens to remain free in this country and to continue breaking our laws, goes a long way in confessing that truth.

We can add your confession to that of harrowup's, who finally came clean and admitted that his motivation was based on being a life-long member of the ACLU and the Democrat party (as well as a self-confessed forum disruptor).

Is your motivation to support criminality, similar to harrowup's?

--Boot Hill