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To: harrowup
However, the anemic turnout for the first deployment suggests that the movement might soon come to a blessed standstill.

You can wish it is true all you want, but I was there and there was no anemic turnout. As has been stated on FR before, the MMP never expected all 1,000 volunteers to show up on the first day. Over the length of the entire month there will be a total of 1,000 or more volunteers taking part in the project. It is nowhere close to coming to a standstill, but is proving to be successful (I know, you're deeply saddened over this) and will spawn a number of similar Minuteman Projects all along the border.

Funny how you can look at the entire article which mentions the attention that the project is bringing to the border and all you can focus on is some lie about the "anemic" turnout. Do you hold Free Republic to the same standard? Have you attacked Free Republic and its efforts for the anemic turnout at March for Justice II and the utter lack of media coverage or even updates on FR? No, I didn't think so. Nor should Free Republic be attacked as any effort, no matter how small, to secure the country, defend our freedoms, etc. should be given the credit it deserves.

25 posted on 04/09/2005 8:59:31 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff

Howdy Spiff.

Very well said!


26 posted on 04/09/2005 9:02:01 AM PDT by beltfed308
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To: Spiff
What everyone ignores is that operations such as MMP have no chance for success. In fact, the only level of success they might achieve is to not create an incident.

First off, the stated goal is to raise awareness of what is going on at the border. Tell me how many citizens don't know about that already?

Second, these type of operations have been tried before with bad results. When Ranch Rescue pistol-whipped those illegals in South Texas, they created bad press. Prior to that, Ranch Rescue ran an operation with the Rebublic of Texas kooks and that created bad press. More recently, during one of the smaller operations along the Arizona border, one of the participants had a run-in with a Park Ranger.

With a history like this, everyone expects bad results. Consequently, when a rinky-dink such as Barton come along, everyon says I told you so.

So, lets say MMP gets thru this without a major incident, what happens next?

Someone will run another operation of this type. And another. And another.

Eventually, likely sooner than later, one of the subsequent operations will create an incident and everything goes down the drain.

Militia type operations will only fail. You might consider hiring a public relations firm to help you.

30 posted on 04/09/2005 9:59:45 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Spiff
You can wish it is true all you want, but I was there and there was no anemic turnout. As has been stated on FR before, the MMP never expected all 1,000 volunteers to show up on the first day. Over the length of the entire month there will be a total of 1,000 or more volunteers taking part in the project. It is nowhere close to coming to a standstill, but is proving to be successful (I know, you're deeply saddened over this) and will spawn a number of similar Minuteman Projects all along the border. Funny how you can look at the entire article which mentions the attention that the project is bringing to the border and all you can focus on is some lie about the "anemic" turnout. Do you hold Free Republic to the same standard? Have you attacked Free Republic and its efforts for the anemic turnout at March for Justice II and the utter lack of media coverage or even updates on FR? No, I didn't think so. Nor should Free Republic be attacked as any effort, no matter how small, to secure the country, defend our freedoms, etc. should be given the credit it deserves.

In the first place this is an Editorial in the Houston Chronicle to which I subscribe.

In the second place I know you have been on the border and I have been reading your reports and have treated them with as much respect as due. Your spin is not obnoxious or absurd in its bravado.

Finally, I have no problem with demonstrations of any kind provided they are without threat or intimidation. Armed vigilantes are not by any definition a demonstration. They are a threat and a nuisance. Your contrary opinion is valid. You have not to my reading called anyone opposed to your position either a traitor or agent of a foreign power. You have my appreciation for remaining civil.

What my opinion of fundraisers and demonstrations in D.C. have to do with this is beyond me...but trust me, I know what you would like to hear and you won't be satisfied in that regard.

You may, if you wish invite me to another thread which discusses your concerns about other venues.

53 posted on 04/09/2005 1:01:15 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Spiff; harrowup
"It is nowhere close to coming to a standstill, but is proving to be successful (I know, you're deeply saddened over this) and will spawn a number of similar Minuteman Projects all along the border."

Lol, harrowup is no doubt deeply saddened AND brewing numerous mugs of chamomile tea to help his illegal-lovin' @ss deal with the MM patriots' great success.

142 posted on 04/09/2005 8:48:01 PM PDT by Liberator
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