If you prefer to discuss the issue reasonably, as has been occurring here, feel free to join in. Most of us here have thus far avoided the other threads, as they are rife with the sort of problems the Manifesto points out. We try to avoid them here, and ignore those who try to bring it.
Notice, the posters who disagree with one another nonetheless keep it civil. If a person goes outside civility, or outside the decorum asked for, we simply post the relevant passage from the manifesto and thank them for bumping.
If you'll check my past posts on this and other threads you'll see that I've been reasonably civil - with a little bit of sarcasm thrown in. ;)
