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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Trinity_Tx

GREAT job compiling information on your homepage Trinity.


741 posted on 03/29/2005 2:50:16 PM PST by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: thoughtomator
Yeah, well, I can't say I have anything better to offer. It's a difficult problem.

One hopes that the individual state "incubators" will come up with an equitable solution. The Texas solution seems (to me) rather draconian in its reliance on the opinions of medical administrators (perfect examples of economically driven individuals, after all), and I can't say that I found the expedited process employed in the Sun Hudson case precisely satisfactory.

And the Florida solution... Well, the process wasn't on its face fatally flawed, but that process still gave us the resolution we find so repugnant.

742 posted on 03/29/2005 2:50:40 PM PST by atlaw
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To: Kryptonite
"If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed."

Thanks for the bump!


743 posted on 03/29/2005 2:50:52 PM PST by Drango (My tag line is takin' a nap. Please come back later.)
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To: EveningStar
" Does this mean that non-WPPFF threads are not worth participating in?"

It means that those who do not find them useful may post here without the nonsense so common on those threads. If you prefer to discuss the issue reasonably, as has been occurring here, feel free to join in. Most of us here have thus far avoided the other threads, as they are rife with the sort of problems the Manifesto points out. We try to avoid them here, and ignore those who try to bring it.

Notice, the posters who disagree with one another nonetheless keep it civil. If a person goes outside civility, or outside the decorum asked for, we simply post the relevant passage from the manifesto and thank them for bumping.

744 posted on 03/29/2005 2:52:25 PM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: BerthaDee

Don't feed the trolls.


745 posted on 03/29/2005 2:54:03 PM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: Long Cut
Manifesto: The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
746 posted on 03/29/2005 2:55:46 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Peach

Well said Peach. Very well said.


747 posted on 03/29/2005 2:56:33 PM PST by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: Peach; Trinity_Tx

Sorry..forgot to put Dr Hammesfahr's name in that last post.


748 posted on 03/29/2005 2:57:41 PM PST by Rheo
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"When ya get right down to it, isn't pretty much everything on FR a 'self-agrandizing circle jerk', whether it be the Schiavo threads, CrEvo threads, immigration threads, WoSD Threads, etc... etc...?"

Bing! Bang! Boom!

I don't know if you've got a fan club. I don't know if ther are any openings. But I want in!

Beautiful. ;)

749 posted on 03/29/2005 2:58:16 PM PST by G.Mason (If you get upset when I ignore you, my plan is working)
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To: texasflower
Thank you so much, texasflower.

It's an unintended consequence, unfortunately.
750 posted on 03/29/2005 2:58:19 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Stakka Skynet
Take an ethics class. Radical socialists advocate the extermination of all who are deemed "a burden on society", for "the common good". This includes the elderly and disabled. This goes a long way in explaining why the majority of democrats support MS.

True. And why those praying to their manifesto god are hiding out here, because the TS threads do not warrant participation, and aren't realizing that they are feeding George Felos with their actions.

751 posted on 03/29/2005 2:58:22 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Kryptonite
Yes. If you agree, you are free to post here on whatever side you wish, so long as you keep it civil. If you disagree, or if you prefer other threads' atmosphere, by all means go there.

Those of us who irreverantly call ourselves the WPPFF do not find those threads useful. Thus, this thread, which I must respectfully ask you to please stop trashing. No one's forcing you to be here.

752 posted on 03/29/2005 2:58:51 PM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: Rheo

LOL!

And FNC has had him on and thinks he's credible! Do they not have a research department?


753 posted on 03/29/2005 2:59:10 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Peach

Can I be recognized as a charter member? I was in court all day beating back liberalism, socialism and statism.


754 posted on 03/29/2005 2:59:11 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: unbalanced but fair
In Ohio, they have a law that states a person must have a Living Will to enforce removal of a feeding tube. But in December, the court over-ruled that.

Do you have a cite to the court's opinion? I'm very curious as to their reasoning.

755 posted on 03/29/2005 2:59:35 PM PST by atlaw
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Consider yourself a charter member and keep up the good work. LOL


756 posted on 03/29/2005 2:59:43 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Drango

Listen to Dennis Praeger for about an hour. You'll be able to put your finger why you drifted away from Rush.


757 posted on 03/29/2005 3:00:10 PM PST by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: Kryptonite
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate."

Thanks for the bumps!

758 posted on 03/29/2005 3:00:16 PM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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To: Peach

It seems that very few media outlets have a research department....very sad.


759 posted on 03/29/2005 3:00:32 PM PST by Rheo
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To: Peach

Head up:

Johnny Cochran is dead per MSNBC, after a long illness.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1373377/posts?page=1


760 posted on 03/29/2005 3:00:44 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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