Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Had Terri Schindler been granted that hearing and subsequently found no reason to re-insert the feeding tube you'd still be claiming the State "murdered" her.
I think we're all getting weary over this.
Her body was kept alive for selfish parental reasons.
...which of course having children of my own, one can understand.
What if? lol
Then you shouldn't need to resort to the Hitler thing. It just weakens your own case by making you look like a crackpot.
Excellent analogy.
Unfortunately, there are no large or small victories for Terri, her parents or siblings. Their loss diminishes all of us.
sp
Had a de novo review actually been held and the federal judiciary after such review found ts to be in a pvs, I would not have objected to the tube being pulled.
Why should I care if you are weary or not?
We all agree FR will still be here. Many of us doubt it will retain the level of credibility it had achieved and the membership that had swelled may well shrink a bit.
Speaking as one who has read this site since September of 1997, I don't think many realize the damage that has been done.
Yes, there's a chance the ship will right itself. I pray that will happen.
Tell the truth. You claim to have supernatural psychic powers which allows you to read the motivations of the Schindlers.
I grow weary of all of this.
I love your tag line.
I find it funny that certain people, some who have been around awhile, think FR is now less prestigious, or will falter, etc….just because a majority of people on FR do not agree with that certain group. What high opinions they have of themselves! I know many of them are just the loudest on FR and post their opinion on every thread.
Still posting here? I thought everyone would go away after a few days. Everyody see Long Cut's opus?
Good Morning, Asphalt!
Watching it a little, but not saying much.
Yes, saw that LC left.
Stand by for Freeepmail!
:-)
You said in #4746... Why should I care if you are weary or not?
2 replies later you state in #4748...I grow weary of all of this.
Make up your mind please. ;^)
Dude, I've got news for you - if God expects us to personally correct every single injustice that takes place in the world, we're ALL going to hell.
I've made up my mind to never make up my mind. Ya mind?
In many people's view, including mine, the pro-life and the pro-limited government positions came into conflict on this board. I was surprised by how the pro-life tenet seemed to take precedence over all other traditionally conservative views, ie, people seem willing to give up freedoms in other areas purely to extend one person's life.
got the mail. might drop in some time.
You live in a fantasy universe devoid of reality.
>>Coma?
As regards the pro-life movement ... yes. I've never paid much attention to them because extremists put me off. I had no idea how totally their crusade had blotted out every other consideration.
The situation as we saw it slime it's way through FR has been terribly inlightening. Reminds me of the prohibition movement. Mankind is so steeped in original sin that even his good intentions can wreck total havoc.
I check in here periodically to see who has some final thoughts and healing remarks.
Not a veteran Freeper yet, but the names and content are becoming predictable.
One can garden after sunset - just remember where you planted roses, lemons or sour grapes.
You two - roses:)
sp
Yes, it does not take long to figure out who the "usual suspects" are.....by the way, glad to have you at FR.
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