Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Here's an exchange from Logan's Run. Do you think they'll get the connection?
VOICE - He's lying. No Sandman ever ran.
2ND VOICE - You don't run. You kill runners. You have killed runners all your life.
LOGAN - Yes I have. Now it's my turn. And I want to live.
In my opinion, yes.
I just don't think it's a good idea to put a spotlight on yourself...in the smokey backroom.
Of course you can post without anyone's persmission.
But as somebody already has shown in links to the aforementioned exchange the other night between you and others... as DeNiro said in Goodfellows
..."Yeah, you did. A little bit. You insulted him a little bit."
I tried to make the connection, but now I'm sidetracked thinking about Jenny Agutter.
Those who support(ed) exterminating Terri and others like her, are kind of like Logan. His job was to track down "runners," people who tried to escape being murdered when society had decided it was their turn. Now it's Logan's turn, and he has become a runner. He wants to live.
For some, it's very easy to agree with the extermination of others, but when it's their turn, they'll have a completely different perspective. Who will stand up for their rights then? Those of us who have been doing so all along, unless of course we've been silenced by then.
And you knew all of the types of kryptonite too. I'm impressed. LOL!
Yeah, I've seen the movie several times, BB, I was just making a lame joke. Jenny was my favorite part of the movie, though.
Shouldn't somebody post a photo?
Now it's obvious that Roe v Wade is unconstitutional, and that the issue should be sent back to the various States.
In Georgia, I would lobby for restriction with the exception of rape, incest, and the life of the mother. (NOT a dubious "health" of the mother) with judges approval.
Are you saying there is now no room for debate?
Give me a break, will you.
Thanks
LOL...ok!
This is what I mean by cute. I've made my positions clear. You haven't even offered a position but prefer the gotcha game. Well, you lose on gotcha this time.
The answer to your question is very simple. The state should only be involved if there is an absolute necessity as in this case where there was no written living will, the family members disagree and the spouse is conflicted.
As for you Cyn, mind your own beeswax.
Ya play with the bull, and you're gonna get the horns :)
This is the point I tried to make yesterday; someone posted a link to a white supremacist (real) neo-nazi website because it had a supposed picture of TS that was supposedly snapped surreptitiously by a camera phone. It was re-posted several times, ensuring that the mouth breather's filthy web site got thousands of hits, though the original poster had no idea and was horrified by the content of the site when I pointed it out. As far as I knew, I was the only one to hit the abuse on it and report it. No one else bothered to read the screed below the picture or they didn't care. Our enemies are watching, let's not give them ammo.
I didn't even read the threads until the last two days..I apprecite your thoughtful posts..Very informative.Thank you for taking the time and the effort.
I felt sane.
I have not posted about this subject because I saw what was happening early on...I have now read some threads lately and find the accusations are unfortunate and perhaps would be better to leave unsaid..
I hope you are just leaving the subject and not the forum.
We can afford to lose many more voices.
Cherry...
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