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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: restornu
Pooper Scooper Patrol: Clean up on post #2405.
2,461 posted on 03/31/2005 5:52:48 AM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: beyond the sea

On top of all the other lies he's told, he has a major credibility problem.

I wouldn't choose a doctor from the National Inquirer, would you?


2,462 posted on 03/31/2005 5:54:31 AM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: beyond the sea

I've only posted the documentation a half a dozen times, but here it is again:

http://home.comcast.net/~trinity_tx/rhodes.htm


2,463 posted on 03/31/2005 5:55:25 AM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: cyncooper; AmericaUnited
It's not a club and the discerning poster may call names where applicable.

That's laughable.

"Discerning posters may call names" ---- that's rich! Did your teacher put a little golden star on your forehead and move you to the front of the class? ;-)

2,464 posted on 03/31/2005 5:55:43 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: sinkspur

see, you guys always run there. Its not about the Nazis.


Its about what Hannah Arendt called the Banality of Evil.


This is that, pure and simple.


2,465 posted on 03/31/2005 5:57:00 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "What every woman needs..." ; ))
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To: beyond the sea

Why is it laughable?

When one earns a characterization then one can be called on it. When they don't earn a characterization and are attacked falsely and maliciously that is wrong.

I hope that is clear.

Being called pro-death when one is pro-life, for example.


2,466 posted on 03/31/2005 5:58:48 AM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: cyncooper

You say calling a well known and respected (by many) politician a fool is " typical FR commentary"? LOL. Maybe it's typical, but it's wrong.


2,467 posted on 03/31/2005 5:59:02 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: hobbes1
Its not about the Nazis.

So that's why you brought it up.

~rolling my eyes~

2,468 posted on 03/31/2005 5:59:30 AM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: hobbes1
Its not about the Nazis.

Then why did you bring up a Nazi? I didn't.

Using "Nazi" is akin to using the "f" word.

2,469 posted on 03/31/2005 6:00:45 AM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Peach
Amazing drivel from otherwise ordinary people.

FR Thread: Is There a Mysterious Dark Force that Hovers over that Spot Called Pinellas?

sad.
2,470 posted on 03/31/2005 6:02:57 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: beyond the sea

But you applauded the comments about Coulter and Crier.

(which were not uttered by me, nor were the Pat B. comments...none of those comments were encompassed in the thread basis)


2,471 posted on 03/31/2005 6:04:41 AM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: Dominick

Oomigawd. I went over and browsed that thread- it's...it's...(I'll get back to you when I find the words)


2,472 posted on 03/31/2005 6:07:26 AM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: cyncooper
And you had no problem when someone described Ann Coulter as a bitch.

Is that a question or a statement? In fact I know nothing of that "bitch" remark. You're jumping to an incorrect conclusion.

You'll notice my criticism of Catherine Crier focused squarely on comments she had made and not her appearance or personality, yet you popped in to talk about her thin lips.

Yes, that was a little unnecessary of me. I actually find her relatively attractive, but I know it was wrong to introduce that. But, I had a boxer/writer friend years ago who used to use that phrase "thin, cruel lips", and I guess I always liked it as a descriptive phrase, even thought thin lips are really not indicative of anything. But again, it was out of place............ like the "fool" name. ;-) (Had to stick that on the end. ;-) )

2,473 posted on 03/31/2005 6:08:01 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: cyncooper

I don't have time now, gotta go back outside and deal with some plants.


2,474 posted on 03/31/2005 6:08:57 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Peach
I wouldn't choose a doctor from the National Inquirer, would you?

Nope................ maybe a fortune teller or something like that. ;-)

2,475 posted on 03/31/2005 6:09:58 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: AmericaUnited
Let me fix this bucko in this case it is:

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

You can't cut corners in Justice. Conservatives, real conservatives understand the means and ends are important, and that bad and shoddy means never justify the ends, because the means and the ends are a tautology.

Defending Terri is pursuing justice, you can't pursue justice by mob rule. A militia was offering to come and rescue her, how many people would have been killed?

You are confusing those who want to kill her and who want to save Terri without sacrificing the entire prolife movement. People like you are willing dupes of the DNC. This circus outside the hospice is a tool of those who wish to depose Bush and put Clinton in office, and you are doing their work for them.
2,476 posted on 03/31/2005 6:10:40 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: cyncooper
When one earns a characterization then one can be called on it. When they don't earn a characterization and are attacked falsely and maliciously that is wrong.

Are you saying that Pat Buchanan is a fool?

2,477 posted on 03/31/2005 6:11:08 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: All

Yes yes I fed the troll. SOme people I can't tolerate after some threads I have seen today.


2,478 posted on 03/31/2005 6:11:16 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: beyond the sea

Um, no.

I am tolerating posters' opinions when they back them up and I will directly dispute them if I disagree and I am of a mind to.

I am simply pointing out that characterizing commentators is typical FR fare and not at all what this thread is based on, contrary to what you complained about.


2,479 posted on 03/31/2005 6:14:08 AM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: Dominick; SE Mom
I thought I had a pretty decent vocabulary, but I can not find words to describe that thread either. Somehow "barking moonbats" just does not come within an order of magnitude. Wow.
2,480 posted on 03/31/2005 6:24:58 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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