Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
I agree...we are getting more and more conflicting reports from the Schindler family, and again, I think its just due to their rightly felt desperation, and their suffering...for truly they are suffering, I have no doubt of that...
Heres another thing...there seem to have been inferences, that because Terri has held on this long, without water, that this is some sort of 'miracle'...
Dont want to rain on any ones calling out of 'miracles', but even before the feeding tube was removed, the doctors, said, that she would probably last for between 1-2 weeks...it all depended on how good her hydration was previous to having the tube pulled, and how much energy she was exerting...it appears that previous to pulling the feeding tube, she was receiving adequate hydration, and as far as I can make out, her exertion, is very minimal...
So given those 'facts', its just medically a given, that she would last between 1-2 weeks...lasting 2 weeks is not a miracle in the sense that some would wish to believe...its just a medical variance, supported by the doctors...unless you care to just disbelieve the doctors...
But the Schindlers wanteded half the 300,000 Michael won in his settlement. He refused...they almost came to blows the Schindlers went to court to try and get him removed as Guardian of Terri. They thought they would get control of the 700,000 awarded Terri. It got nasty and has stayed that way for years now. The whole country is really just coming in at the end of the story. Those who live here have been disgusted by this entire family for years. Pinellas Park up to Haines Road Road seem to attract these kind of people.(local inside joke)
YES! He irriatates me now and again- but not in a really bad way, and his Lebanon coverage was superior!
Perhaps something good will come from this. I hope so. Right now, all I see is bad.
This is as much a story as "Sun came up".
I think I've seen that posted.
I'm not interested in learning an in depth profile of each player in this saga.
Just the facts in the current situation and as I think was crystal clear, my observatin re Felos focused on the description of Terri Schiavo after the feeding tube was removed.
Speaking of being buried with diamonds. If she was being cremated, it isn't like she would still HAVE the rings with her.
It's one thing to be desperate,
BUT! It's another thing to
for them to speak out of both
sides of their mouths,
continually.
I also found it creepy, what Felos said...I just have to tell myself, that the truth of how Terri looks, and how Terri is acting, probably lies somewhere in between what the Schindlers say and what Felos says...
I'm for seeing both sides - Michael and the parents as human. I'm not for putting either side on a pedestal.
I heard that they initally expected a very large settlement sum, in the 14 million range. And all parties agreed that a special home would be built where the Schindlers and Schiavo could live to care for Terri. But, the settlement was much smaller, and Michael assumed the money would remain his. War ensued. And here we are.
No insult intended to you btw.
But you know how the beach locals joke about Pinellas Park.
Which takes the kidneys, heart,etc. longer to cease functioning.
You may end up being right. Time will tell. Right now, you appear to be about as fair minded as the folks on the other side.
Self-ping placemarker :)
A man of moderation and balance. Only starve half the people.
I don't think they would have been "burned" as badly or at all if it weren't for this disgusting Democrat/old media assault!
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Memogate Part Two (The Dubious “GOP Talking Points” Memo)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1371673/posts ---- Democrats played a dirty trick on the Republicans in a matter of life and death
Yes, when you see what you're promoting up front and personal, IT IS VERY OFFENSIVE.
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