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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

I'll try.


1,301 posted on 03/29/2005 6:57:11 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Ghoul Power!)
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To: Kryptonite

Welcome back.


1,302 posted on 03/29/2005 7:00:10 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: RushCrush

I missed that as I have given up on Rush. I am an original Rush fan by the way. Been a talk show junkie since '76. Actually I used to listen to Paul Harvey when I was a teenager in the sixties.

Rush is all bombastic all the time any more. He's offensive where he used to be a great listener to his callers. He's pushy where he used to be entertaining. He's even hateful these days.

Maybe he's back on dope or that liberal broad he's been fornicating with has gotten to him. I just don't like the man any more.


1,303 posted on 03/29/2005 7:00:15 PM PST by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: BerthaDee

Okay, I gotta say it. You crack me up!


1,304 posted on 03/29/2005 7:01:30 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Peach

Are you not yet weary beyond reason? You have been fighting so long and hard. I really appreciate your effort.


1,305 posted on 03/29/2005 7:02:49 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: mercy
Ever had a thread pulled?

Yes, it was on a Saturday night when things, absent an election, Terri crisis, or any other political or social debacle wasn't happening.

I posted an article from USA Today, I think, which talked about the new fad of putting foam fake nipple pads on the outside of bras. I thought it was an opening for an intellectual discussion of societal and cultural values, or maybe just a chance to make cheap wisecracks. I forget which.

It was yanked, and another kind Freeper wrote my opus the next Monday, asserting that I was too distraught to do it myself. It was pretty good comedy, but, yes, having a thread pulled is not fun.

1,306 posted on 03/29/2005 7:03:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: EveningStar; All

Heads up- Ken Starr on Greta...reasonable as ever!


1,307 posted on 03/29/2005 7:05:47 PM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: BerthaDee

Thanks


1,308 posted on 03/29/2005 7:06:03 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Dog Gone

Larry Klayman on CNN talking about his grandmother being in a nusring home. *Snicker*


1,309 posted on 03/29/2005 7:06:36 PM PST by Howlin
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To: mercy
Paul Harvey had an interesting segment today. He related that while Terri Schiavo is starving to death, the state of California has spent $1.2 million caring for six comatose death row inmates, and $1000/day for their security guards.

Paul Harvey is great.

1,310 posted on 03/29/2005 7:07:28 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Peach
Were you not the one who said not to ping you?

Anyways.......

You have opinions I have opinions

I just want all loose ends dealt with....

The wording about this coming autopsy seem to be only about the brain.... I hope it is a complete examine of the whole body by an non Ethic ME!

In the end those of us who feel this way are the voice for Terri......

Michael is able to carry on with his life until the Ethic Society ask him to get off this planet!:)

1,311 posted on 03/29/2005 7:08:38 PM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: Doohickey
Well, I'm glad someone responded to it. I was feeling a little regected.
1,312 posted on 03/29/2005 7:09:39 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: Howlin

If I ever have Jesse Jackson and Larry Klayman on my side, consider this my written ORDER to have me killed as soon as possible.


1,313 posted on 03/29/2005 7:10:53 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Kryptonite

I didn't "get" your post at first because I hadn't made it to the 800's yet. Glad you're back.


1,314 posted on 03/29/2005 7:12:32 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Dog Gone

Even if you don't have a feeding tube?


1,315 posted on 03/29/2005 7:12:40 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

"So, if you can't see the evidence of said injury, it MUST still be there?"

****

No that is not what he said, there were marking only debate able 91 and the latest equiptment (MRI an also ct-scan) will identify.....just like DNA today can clear one or accuse one in a debate able situation!


1,316 posted on 03/29/2005 7:14:59 PM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: BerthaDee

Oh, Bertha. Bless you for saying that. It's responses like that that keep me going. LOL

I feel very passionate about this matter. And for more than just the right to self determination.

When I think what this has done to the pro life movement and the face of compassionate conservatism, I could weep.

Do you now how many women my age are becoming grandmothers and have seen their daughters sonograms and thought, that IS life. And new technology lets people know that at some age, 12 weeks (?), doctors can clap near the mom's tummy and the unborn baby puts their hands to their ears.

Those women were going to counsel their grandchildren and nieces never to get pregnant unless they wanted a baby.

But now, the pro life movement is seen in a bad light because of Randall Terry and those supporters who are yelling into bullhorns all night disturbing the dying patients, many of whom can hear and respond to stimulation, unlike Terri.

And the face of compassionate conservatives is tied to the movement. And this doesn't look compassionate to me.

And the president can forget getting his judges nominates, imo.

It's set us back 20 years. I'm furious.

I've been accused of being obsessed with this. That is because I could see the train wreck coming...a lot of us could. We tried to staunch the flow but too late.


1,317 posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:11 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Howlin

Especially if I don't have a feeding tube.


1,318 posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:49 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: restornu
Hitchhiker's guide to the Universe"

Was it interesting?

What was it about?

Hmmm. Yes, it was interesting. What was it about? *fingers drumming on desk* Well, it started it with the planet earth getting an eviction notice because some alien culture was planning a construction project and the earth was going to be demolished to make room for said project. However, the notice was overlooked, although it had been properly posted according to the Regulations. The hero of the story, Arthur Dent, escapes the planet on an alien ship and embarks on a series of very odd adventures, and ends up at the Restaurant at the End of The Universe. Hitchhiker's Guide

1,319 posted on 03/29/2005 7:19:34 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks for trying. I guess we're not pulled, but is someone else "watching"?

What's the deal?

1,320 posted on 03/29/2005 7:20:24 PM PST by Long Cut (WPPFF Member.)
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