Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Yeah, the one that got laughed outta court....
Yeah I had considered that one, but the general nature of the starvation made it a weaker analogy. This being targeted at the disabled is one of the features of the case.
How many of you believe Jesse was given the Schindler fundraising list?
Thanks.
Here's another choice Randall Terry quote from 1993:
We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism. ... Theocracy means God rules."
That's what he said in 1993.
Well, he got a "nomination." The problem is that it came from someone with zero authority to nominate someone for the Prize. It holds about as much meaning as if I sent the Nobel committee a letter nominating my dog.
I just got this email from my mother who was a nurse for many, many years. It just shows that medical folk are anything but demi-gods.
Subject: Fw: Actual sentences found in patients' hospital charts
ACTUAL SENTENCES FOUND IN PATIENTS' HOSPITAL CHARTS
1. She has no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.
2. Patient has chest pain if she lies on her left side for over a year.
3. On the second day the knee was better, and on the third day it disappeared.
4. The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.
5. The patient has been depressed since she began seeing me in 1993.
6. Discharge status: Alive but without my permission.
7. Healthy appearing decrepit 69-year-old male, mentally alert but forgetful.
8. The patient refused autopsy.
9. The patient has no previous history of suicides.
10. Patient has left white blood cells at another hospital.
11. Patient's medical history has been remarkably with only a 40-pound weight gain in the past three days.
12. Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch.
13. Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.
14. Since she can't get pregnant with her husband, I thought you might like to work her up.
15. She is numb from her toes down.
16. While in ER, she was examined, X-rated, and sent home.
17. The skin was moist and dry.
18. Occasional, constant infrequent headaches.
19. Patient was alert and unresponsive.
20. Rectal examination revealed a normal size thyroid.
21. She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life, until she got a divorce.
22. I saw your patient today, who is still under our car for physical therapy.
23. Both breasts are equal and reactive to light and accommodation.
24. Examination of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized.
25. The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.
26. The patient was to have a bowel resection. However, he took a job as a stockbroker instead.
27. Skin: somewhat pale but present.
28. The pelvic exam will be done later on the floor.
29. Patient was seen in consultation by Dr. Blank, who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.
30. Large brown stool ambulating in the hall.
31. Patient has two teenage children, but no other abnormalities
Heh heh. :)
The group formed due to having the same perception of a phenomenon that was occurring that we did not like. It was not the FR we were used to. The purpose of this thread was to get back to the rest of the forum.
And I must say, the tone of this thread is like it's supposed to be. Back and forth, disagreement but with the sides presenting a rational rationale, not just flinging insults (yes, there are a few flame-throwers, but that's normal, too).
It was not meant to be a clique but a temporary banding together.
Will you share?
He does nothing w/out $$ behind it.
Schindlers selling the tapes of Terri is despicable.
Hitchhiker's guide to the Universe"
Was it interesting?
What was it about?
Have you read the information on the site you posted? I don't know about all this but the doctor is saying the:
"abnormalities that are described occcured AFTER Terri's February 1990 arrest probably in the weeks or month{s} just prior to the bone scan, unless she had a second arrest at some point..."
The bone scan was done in March 1991 after Terri had been to California and returned to the rehab center.
Yes, Hildy nailed it from the get go.
She's away on a small vacation to check
on the construction of her new home, but
she'll be back sometime Friday. I did call
her on her cell with the news as reported
by Abram's. I'm planning to watch the replay
of his show, just to see his stunned face as
Peach has described.
Yes, it's my understanding that a money matter
started the disruption between the husband and the parents.
LOL... I don't even understand my own system half the time - it used to be organized all nice... Now, it's like Google itself. LOL
Ditto your post 100 times.
And I will add, not only did the Schindlers love Michael, they testified in court that they encouraged him to start dating again. They asked to meet his future girlfriends.
He was 26, IIRC, when she had her cardiac arrest, and they knew he was too young to sit by the bedside of their daughter who was PVS.
In '93 the doctors recommended he have the tube pulled. He refused. A few years later he petitioned the courts to make a decision when he realized it was hopeless. The courts noted in their ruling that he effectively weakened his position when he did that.
Some of us are Nazis, and some of us fell off the edge of the flat earth.
I think that's a fairly accurate summary of the debate.
Please see your FR mail, Wolfstar.
Peach, I have sent the link to Wolfstar,
knowing you wouldn't mind.
Some of us are Nazis, and some of us fell off the edge of the flat earth.
ROTFLOL!
Oh my.
Me! Me! Me! (raising hand and jumping up and down)
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