Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
That's because her opposition was very well funded too. It's when the other side can't afford a good attorney that the opportunity to buy a verdict exists.
When a guardian is sued in his role as guardian for anything execpt malfeasance doesn't the estate pay the legal fees?
Did you see the posts we printed out to Neet's link regarding that matter? They advertise it on the web page...that you can buy the video.
I didn't make the assertion based on the premise of fact in the manifesto that there is a flat EEG for Mrs. Schiavo. If you can't back it up, then I must doubt the assertion.
Don't jump the gun, Thoughtomater. Admin Mod just hasn't gotten to my posts yet, so chill :)
We're in the section called the Smokey Back Room. The other side is the regular news section where we used to be able to post without being called sweet little nothings like murderer, Nazi, etc.
Isn't a flat EEG inconsistent with a diagnosis of PVS?
Are you kidding!!!
Thanks. I was going hunting for Trinity's screen name so I could check her profile for links, but can't remember exactly how she spells it. Trinity_TX? It was the good Dr. Hammesfahr, the Nobel Prize Nominated neurologist I heard saying that, and I've heard at least a couple of talk show hosts repeating that as if it were the Gospel. I'm disappointed in them, frankly. Seems that they didn't do any research themselves.
You have to have a bone scan to suspect abuse? These families were close before Terri's collapse. No one noticed that she kept turning up with fractures??? Sure.
Wow. You are something else. What a closed mind.
You do realize that the Schindlers have fund raised throughout this and will not disclose how much money they've raised or where the money has gone?
MS got $300,000 out of the malpractice suit. I imagine that was used up long ago in attorneys and I also would bet the Schindlers have collected far more than that especially with their links with Randall Terry and the pro life movement which traditionally is very generous with donations.
Oh. That's how it works. Okay.
Do you think it was government interference? I don't. Congress didn't order a specific outcome, they simply allowed the case to be heard in a Federal court.
No, I missed it.
I've been out shopping most of the day.
If you have link, please
send in FR mail. I'll pass
to Hildy in *e* --- I did
talk to her just now...lol.
I saw far too many hopeless cases, after lengthy rehab and therapy, walk back into our unit to thank us for our care.
He spent $400k of Terri's settlement money on Felos.
That's because most of us here want Terri to live, genius.
You spelled it correctly.
Yes. The SChindler's doctor, Dr. H., advertises in the National Inquirer. Insurance companies won't work with him. He claims to have a Nobel prize nomination but couldn't produce it for the court.
He claimed he could treat patients like Terri but when asked for the information on ONE single patient he has treated like Terri, he couldn't do it.
The other Schindler doctor, I've forgotten his name, didn't know the difference between a coma and PVS.
A flat EEG is one of the indications considered for determination of brain death.
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