Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
I wasn't jumping on you. I was gently teasing :)
You need to look at the spirit in which this thread was offered. Take a step back, and really read the posts, the thread and what's trying to be accomplished here. You shot before looking.
I think it's pretty clear by now, the Schindlers say one thing on television and another under oath.
Have you seen the videos taken years ago, of her? See how twisted she was then? Can you even IMAGINE how twisted she would be after all of these years without physical therapy?
The traumatic bone fractures are not attributable to bulimia. In addition the CAT scan shows features consistent with a blow to the top of the head. Also there are several people who have said that Terri often had bruises, and several more who said that Michael was prone to intimidation and violent behavior, and Terri's family members say that she was on the verge of divorcing him before the incident, plus the report of the two of them having a major fight the day before. Then there are the 3 caregivers - one RN and two nursing assistants - who have claimed foul play on his part. On top of all that is Michael's consistent refusal to allow any further testing and analysis of her condition.
All of this adds up to at least the reasonable possibility of foul play, which is further reinforced by the refusal to grant a divorce, the hiring of a lawyer and doctor specializing in euthanasia, the refusal to allow her to be treated for two common infections, the refusal to allow her teeth to be brushed, refusal of physical therapy, and the hiding of medical records from her family, among other things. Plus, it explains why she wouldn't respond to him but responded to members of her family - she was afraid of him.
There is good cause to suspect him here - the Florida DCF lodged a 30+ count complaint based on that very allegation. I've viewed TrinitTX's compilation and I do not find a reasonable explanation for these various pieces of evidence.
Yes.
I'm developing a crush on the Admin mod.
Hey, we get paid per post. I'm milking it, big time.
Ooo, me next. Rouarr
The bone scan record was sealed by the court and not released to the family until 2002, that's why.
WHAT?!! You told me that you don't get paid! I can never trust you again!
So then you know that you can put a patient in a recliner.
No, but I'm going to. I was going to buy the stamp with the new Schiavo dollar coin. They're out now, aren't they?
Ahem. That's an urban legend. It's become increasingly clear the Schindlers say stuff to stir up their supporters but under oath they admit the truth, which doesn't back up the stuff ya'll have fallen for.
The Schindler atty admitted the bone scan had been available to them and did not even try to say it was kept secret:
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder11-02-scan.pdf
Yes I did, and I find that it reads like a university speech code. Fair in concept, easily abused in practice.
ROTFL... Oh, and by the way? If you're going to make a post for every snarky comment someone makes on this thread, you'll save yourself a lot of time and effort by skipping over mine...
That's me, always being helpful :)
So Michael did have access to Terri's trust fund after Greer approved it. Which is exactly what happened.
Hence, the money allocated to a trust fund for Terri's rehab was instead used to fight the legal battle to end her life.
Thank you.
Am I wasting my time here? Do you want me to continue?
Has he been busy? So far I'm just responding to pings but ready to check out the actual thread to see what I'm missing.
I, SUZANNE VITADAMO, sister of the Petitioner in the above-styled case, hereby declare under penalty of perjury:
3. Terri was sitting up in her lounge chair and Mrs. Weller and I were sitting on her bed.
http://www.earnedmedia.org/tf03251.htm
:-)
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