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Maybe! (Santorum is about to become Ex-Senator Santorum)
Politics PA ^ | Uncertain | Dr. G. Terry Madonna , Dr. Michael Young

Posted on 03/29/2005 6:40:35 AM PST by Conservative Goddess

Some very smart people believe that U.S. Senator Rick Santorum is poised to become ex- Senator Santorum, a casualty of his scheduled re-election contest next year with State Treasurer Bob Casey.

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In fact, a close look at the record suggests that his confrontational style and conservative rhetoric conceals more than it reveals. Too much attention has been spent on Santorum the cultural ideologue and not enough on his pragmatism and political opportunism; inside this raging bull of a conservative is a pragmatist for whom getting re-elected always trumps ideology, which may not make him any different than other politicians.

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The independent and much respected National Journal’s rating system cited here is probably the most highly regarded measure of its kind. What its analysis reveals is that Pennsylvania’s junior senator consistently shifts toward the center in those years just before his reelection. Santorum may continue to talk like a conservative, but he’s voting like a pragmatist. Last year, for example, according to the Journal, Santorum was actually narrowly left of the Republican center, with his votes placing him closer to Arlen Specter than to his more conservative colleagues.

Last year was not the only year he moved left. He did the same in the run up to his 2000 re-election. The year before the election, he supported a decidedly un-conservative sales tax hike in 11 western Pennsylvania counties to build new sport stadiums in Pittsburgh, campaigned for pro choice Christy Todd Whitman, and supported increasing the minimum wage. In 2000, he supported federal funding for several Pennsylvania projects, including money for aquatic habitat. He also fought to save the health care benefits of 560, 000 Pennsylvanians who participated in the Medicare+Choice program. Most revealing of all, he backed off his commitment for the 1997-balanced budget act.

Similarly, this election cycle, Santorum is showing renewed interest in transportation and other Pennsylvania pork barrel appropriations. Indeed, he has now become a key player in bringing the bacon back home. He has also held high profile press conferences with John Kerry promoting a measure that would accommodate workers’ religious practices and with Hillary Clinton for money to study the effects of TV viewing, Internet and other media on children. And he is now rethinking his position in favor of capital punishment.

Santorum even now supports Clinton’s Americorps program that he once ridiculed as a colossal waste of taxpayer’s money for kids to sit around campfires singing kum ba yah.

His conservative talk and moderate walk were on display recently in key congressional budget votes. Initially, the “conservative” Santorum voted against a variety of Senate initiatives to restore budget cuts by the House--from Medicaid to Homeland Security grants, to education, and even Amtrak funding. But then on cue, the “moderate” Santorum, voted with the majority, 51 to 49, on final passage to restore the cuts to education, Medicaid, and the other domestic programs he had previously not supported.

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But this focus on Santorum’s high profile rhetoric has been myopic, causing his adversaries to miss much that is important. In particular, insufficient attention has been paid to Santorum’s unflagging work at his party’s grass roots; how he’s established comprehensive constituency services; how he’s worked tirelessly for Republicans--ask Arlen Specter about this--and how he has joined Specter in the Pennsylvania pork brigade. And far too little notice has been given to how he has blended his conservative zealotry with political pragmatism.

Maybe Democrats will learn the lesson taught here. Maybe they will learn not to underestimate Santorum. Maybe they will learn to watch what he does more closely than what he says. Maybe they will learn to take him less seriously as an ideologue and more seriously as a politician. And maybe they will finally defeat him next year. Maybe!


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: casey; caseysfreeperteam; circularfiringsquad; dutrolls; eatourown; electionussenate; newbie; pennsylvania; rino; santorum; toomeyloonies; troll
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To: Mase
Anyone NOT from Pennsylvania on this thread needs to STFU.

This is NOT a conservative state like Oklahoma, yet we have elected one of the most conservative Senators in the country. John Kerry carried Pennsylvania, and Arlen Specter got more votes than Kerry. Specter is the most popular politician in this state. Santorum probably picked up a lot of votes by supporting Specter; had he not supported him he would have been severely damaged going into this campaign. If we let Santorum lose this Senate seat, we will never get it back. Bob Casey will have it for 40 years.

81 posted on 03/29/2005 8:01:32 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Barbara Boxer is deeply saddened......)
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To: Conservative Goddess

Cut off your nose to spite your face.


82 posted on 03/29/2005 8:07:55 AM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
This is NOT a conservative state like Oklahoma

True, and I support Santorum's re-election. That being said, however, Santorum may have hurt himself with conservatives more that he helped himself with Specter-ites by backing Specter over Toomey. Many of my friends in Butler County, for example, are not all that fired up over Santorum. They may vote for him, but they don't feel the drive to go out & work for him the way they worked for Toomey.
83 posted on 03/29/2005 8:12:24 AM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: MadIvan

One senator is not the equivalent of a President. I voted for President Bush, not because I agreed with his support of Arlen, but because Kerry would have beem so much worse. You cannot equate a senator with a president. The two are decidedly different. The Senator is one of my elected representatives in Congress and when he ceases to speak for me, I cease to support him.


84 posted on 03/29/2005 8:24:06 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: All
Candidates' Questionnaire -- 2004 General Election

5. What is your position on a provision in the state’s budget to fund contraceptive services?

Casey (D): Support

5a. What is your position on requiring employers or health insurance plans to cover contraceptives in their prescription drug plans?

Casey (D): Support

7. What is your position on government requiring that benefits be provided to same-sex partners?

Casey (D): Employers should be permitted to extend domestic partnership benefits to same-sex couples in committed, long-term relationships.

8. What is your position on legislation prohibiting homosexual couples from adopting children?

Casey (D): Oppose

5. What is your position on school choice legislation in the form of direct grants to students to attend the school of their choice (vouchers)?

Casey (D): Oppose


85 posted on 03/29/2005 8:24:47 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Conservative Goddess

I say surround him with conservatives.


86 posted on 03/29/2005 8:32:22 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Anyone NOT from Pennsylvania on this thread needs to STFU.
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You're preaching to the choir with me although I disagree with you that anyone outside PA can't have an opinion on this. Santorum's seat is key to holding the senate and building toward the number 60. A filibuster proof majority presents all kinds of opportunities for advancing the conservative agenda, especially with judicial appointments.

I don't like pro-abortion Specter or his attempts to derail Bush's nominees. Doesn't matter if he's from PA or Florida. Challenging Specter or extolling Senator Santorum's record and ACU rating is certainly open for discussion outside of PA residents as is the many benefits of keeping Santorum's seat in the Republican column.
87 posted on 03/29/2005 8:35:27 AM PST by Mase
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To: Mase
Yeah, I am sympathetic to your point. There is a French (ugh!) statement that might be relevant, however, pour encourager les autres (as an example to the others, roughly).

Santorum may not survive, and we may have to wait 6 years. But if heresy is punished there, the others might be encouraged to stay less impure. Defiance of the base with impunity is not representative government. Just a thought, worth what you paid for it!

88 posted on 03/29/2005 8:37:48 AM PST by jammer
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To: fuquadukie; TheBigB; Dane
Rick Santorum was the whip for the medicare vote.He went around trolling for votes trying to convince Republicans to vote for the largest entitlement in American history.I have no problem with Santorum as the Senator from Pennsylvania as long as he tells the truth on what he is:a Moderate.When he and his supporters tell me he is a conservative and has done no wrong,then he has to go. Those of you fighting for Santorum would be better served saying "Rick is an a$$,but he is the best we got" if you keep saying" Rick is a true conservative,the rest of you are nuts" the Santorum will lose and you will fracture the right.
89 posted on 03/29/2005 8:37:55 AM PST by Gipper08
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To: Conservative Goddess; sure_fine

I'll take Santorum over Casey, anyday. The writer's an idiot. And yes, I'm in York, PA.


90 posted on 03/29/2005 8:37:57 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Conservative Goddess
This litany from "The most conservative Senator." Conservatives like this erode the party from within, and are arguably more dangerous than Democrats who are open and honest about what they believe and vote accordingly. Santorum is the enemy within.

A newbie who does nothing but post articles ripping Santorum? Gee, you wouldn't be a troll, would you?
91 posted on 03/29/2005 8:41:26 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: FlipWilson
I am voting Casey over Santorum. Hell maybe the Dems will retake the Senate, that will show em!!

When you make the perfect the enemy of the good, you end up with this:



Bob Casey is about as pro-life as Harry Reid...
92 posted on 03/29/2005 8:43:35 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Conservative Goddess

Is this serious? Somehow all this santorum bashing seems more against his oppostion to homosexual marriage and other culture issues than him not being conservative enough.


93 posted on 03/29/2005 8:45:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Antoninus; hchutch; Long Cut; Howlin; Hildy; Peach

No, she's a true conservative. Dan Rather has some memos from her commanding officer in the Pennsylvania Air National Guard that say so.


94 posted on 03/29/2005 8:48:22 AM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: longtermmemmory

This is an organized campaign by a few newbies.

The Force gives these newbies power over weaker minds.

Unfortunately, many FReepers have the IQ of a toaster, so it works.


95 posted on 03/29/2005 8:49:39 AM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: PhiKapMom; MadIvan; KC_Conspirator; TheBigB; Badray; All

For those who excoriate me for daring to suggest that our elected representatives should say what they mean and mean what they say, I'd like to boil it down for you:

All I'm asking for is truth in advertising.

When Rick speaks like a preacher on Sunday, but votes like a casper-milque-toast moderate on Monday, there has been no truth in advertising. Those who do not bother to compare words and deeds are easily duped. I was duped by his words for a long time.

I find no compelling argument for tolerating duplicity in our elected representatives. On the contrary, I believe they should be held to the highest possible standards of honesty because there has clearly been and continues to be "the odious propagation of the tentacles of the government anemone" into virually every aspect of our lives. Quote from Judge Hoyt, Decision, Inc. v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 47 T.C. 58 (1966)

How are we to stop the odious propagation if our elected officials are not honest with us? Rick's votes on the budget are a prime example. For years, I voted for Rick simply because I believed his words. It's time we hold him accountable for those instances where words and deeds are incongruent. If you don't tolerate lying from your two-year old, then you shouldn't tolerate lying from your elected representative.

If after reading this, you decide to vote for Rick because he's the lesser of the evils, I applaud your conscious decision and active exercise of your franchise. I chose to hold him accountable for failure to be truthful about his motives and deeds. I will do so by withholding my vote in 2006.


96 posted on 03/29/2005 8:51:04 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: hispanichoosier

Ricky will never get a chance to vote on Supreme Court nominees if Arlen holds them in committee. His would be vote for a nominee who dies in committee means nothing.


97 posted on 03/29/2005 8:53:19 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: pgkdan

If not now, when would it be appropriate, in your view, to hold him accountable?


98 posted on 03/29/2005 8:55:33 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: PhiKapMom

You spotted that too, eh PKM?

One of the new tactics used by the Donks is to come in and promote fratricide in order for us to lose seats next year. You're going to see a lot of "conservatives" talking up Third Party nonsense such as Constitution, Libertarian, etc., or throwing the Republican bum out because he isn't conservative enough. Don't be deceived by the bullsh*t artists among us.

Anyone who is arguing to decrease our Senate caucus numbers is arguing in favor of increasing the power of the liberal Democrats. Period. A LOT of people will scream RINO, but they have a different agenda.

I'm not buying this sucker's game. Thanks for being a smart trendspotter, PKM!

Be Seeing You,

Chris

99 posted on 03/29/2005 8:55:52 AM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: KC_Conspirator

Rest assured, I am no troll.


100 posted on 03/29/2005 8:59:03 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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