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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.

The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.

Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.

Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.


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To: Spiff

The "guest worker" proposal is actually Vicente Fox's plan.


2,541 posted on 02/13/2005 7:41:06 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Marine Inspector

See you in April...:O


2,542 posted on 02/13/2005 7:42:00 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Gotcha.


2,543 posted on 02/13/2005 7:42:44 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Maybe someone can get the Minutemen Loons some folding chairs, then.
2,544 posted on 02/13/2005 7:42:53 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: meema
I'm vehemently against open borders and illegals, and I'm very much still here.

I thank God everyday for your site, Jim. My wife however, thinks that I belong to a secret cult or an illicit chat room, because she sees me typing and never bothers to see what I'm doing. Oh well..

Regarding illegal immigration. I was with the LAPD in the early 70's. I remember getting a disturbance call and we found 17 illegals living in one house! Even at that time the orders from the city were to do nothing. The invasion started long ago.

2,545 posted on 02/13/2005 7:44:02 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: FITZ
The Mexican government is trying to stop Proposition 200 ---- which the American voters of Arizona chose. That to me is about as absurd as anything we've seen --- but no one dares stand up to them.

You are correct, Breyer on SCOTUS probably wouldn't, but Scalia and Thomas would.

Look who cares that the Mexican govt. is trying to overturn Prop. 200, they can't, the people who will try to overturn it would be a Clinton/Carter packed 9th circus court in San Francisco.

2,546 posted on 02/13/2005 7:44:54 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: FITZ
There is no problem with my "Ants" as far as I am concerned...that's my opinion, and I could care less about yours.

Or at least, no more than you care about mine.

Now, I want you to do me a favor, and I am asking in the nicest way possible...please do not post to me any longer, there is absolutely no reason for you and I to communicate as I am convinced that we will nevr agree on a thing.

2,547 posted on 02/13/2005 7:46:02 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
. . . when the Bracero Program was folded.
2,548 posted on 02/13/2005 7:48:48 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Marine Inspector; staytrue
I guess the rules apply to me because my post was deleted and maybe deservedly so but I don't think I was too over the top. So how do you call someone a liar without calling them a liar when the lie to you? :)

Rule #3: Do keep it clean - A bruise or two between Freepers is tolerable, but refrain from abusive attacks, engaging in senseless flame wars, and using profane language. Considering the range of topics we discuss, it's hard to be a family site, but that's what we aim for when at all possible.

2,549 posted on 02/13/2005 7:50:39 AM PST by johnwayne
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Then return the favor. You've asked me that before and I accomodated that --- until you posted to me. It cannot be one way you know.


2,550 posted on 02/13/2005 7:52:43 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Dane

I think we should care when Mexico starts writing it's stupid comic books, fails to support us with the war in Iraq, condemns the voters of America for not wanting to do what the Mexican government has never wished to do for it's citizens.

The whole massive immigration problem originates in that corrupt but wealthy country and that's where the best fix can take place. It's not going to get fixed until we actually stand up and tell them it's time to get it done because we're not going to continue this.


2,551 posted on 02/13/2005 7:55:58 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Cultural Jihad
. . . when the Bracero Program was folded.

Exactly!

2,552 posted on 02/13/2005 7:56:35 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: stanz
Who isn't? So is President Bush, and you ought to get behind our American leadership to land the immigration reform our country needs.
2,553 posted on 02/13/2005 7:56:53 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: bayourod
a one-eyed fat man

We can make our points without personal insults.

2,554 posted on 02/13/2005 7:58:08 AM PST by staytrue
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To: FITZ

Your concern of the internal problems of Mexico is not displaced, but its focus is. We do not have the luxury of waiting for the social, political, and economic conditions in Mexico to improve before we try to reform our immigration policies.


2,555 posted on 02/13/2005 8:01:26 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: johnwayne
I guess the rules apply to me because my post was deleted and maybe deservedly so but I don't think I was too over the top. So how do you call someone a liar without calling them a liar when the lie to you? :)

You’re against illegal immigration, so you can't call anyone a liar. The other folks only claim to be against illegal immigration and are friends with the management, so they can call you a liar.

Yes, it is a double standard, but it's one that's been going on for years and is supported by management. It's just something we have to deal with.

Anyway, it just takes away from the site as everyone can see the hypocrisy of the management and those they protect.

2,556 posted on 02/13/2005 8:02:07 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: staytrue; bayourod
Chill dude. That was a John Wayne quote from True Grit.
2,557 posted on 02/13/2005 8:03:31 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: FITZ
It cannot be one way you know.

It can, if you know the right people. ;)

2,558 posted on 02/13/2005 8:03:50 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Amnesty is not immigration reform.


2,559 posted on 02/13/2005 8:04:40 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: fatima; Marine Inspector
Well said. Those who come to be productive guests will run through a gauntlet to get scrutinized, photographed, fingerprinted, and DNA-sampled, while those who continue to violate our borders will get the lion's share of our national security resources.
2,560 posted on 02/13/2005 8:05:20 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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