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Rice urges Israel to avoid unilateral steps on Jerusalem
Ha'aretz ^ | 6 February 2005 | Aluf Benn, Haaretz Staff, and Agencies

Posted on 02/06/2005 12:53:43 PM PST by anotherview

Last Update: 06/02/2005 20:55
Rice urges Israel to avoid unilateral steps on J'lem
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent Haaretz Staff and Agencies

Prime Miniser Ariel Sharon and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ahead of their talks in Jerusalem on Sunday.
(AP)

Condoleezza Rice laying a wreath at the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem on Sunday.
(Reuters)

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Sunday met with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and President Moshe Katsav, and urged them to maintain the status quo over Jerusalem, and avoid taking any unilateral steps on the disputed capital which could harm Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. Israeli sources said Rice was referring to the government's decision from last summer to apply the absentee property law to tens of thousands of dunams (acres) of Palestinian property in East Jerusalem. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz last week instructed Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to order an immediate halt to the application of the law. The sources said Rice may also have been referring to the decision to build the separation fence in Jerusalem, and to expand Jewish neighborhoods in the city.

Rice said Sunday that the disengagement plan is an historic opportunity, and that the future security of Palestinians and Israelis will be ensured only by two states exisiting side by side.

In an interview with TV Channel 2 Rice emphasized the importance of direct contact between Israeli and Palestinian negotiators, and minimum involvement of mediators such as the U.S.

When asked about the right of return for Palestinian refugees, the secretary of state said that while new demographic realities since 1967 must be taken into account, the parties must reach an agreement accommodating to the needs of them both.

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, who was the first Israeli official to meet with Rice on Sunday, told the secretary of state, "Israel will not relinquish its sovereignty over Jerusalem. The issue of Jerusalem will be left to the final status agreement, but we have to intention to harm the Palestinians."

Rice also said that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's disengagement plan must be implemented without delay, and carried out according to its timetable. She told Shalom that Abu Mazen [Abbas] was elected through democratic elections and he needs as much help as possible to give a firm basis to his leadership. Shalom responded that "the pain of the settlers [to be evacuated under the plan] must be understood and empathy must be shown. These people do not know where they will live or where they will work.

Rice arrived in Israel in an optimistic mood Sunday afternoon, as she prepared for talks with Israeli and Palestinian officials two days before the first official Middle East summit since the death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat last November.

Her first stop was a visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem, where she laid a wreath inside the Hall of Remembrance.

She then met with Shalom, followed by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. She is also due to meet President Moshe Katsav later Sunday.

Ahead of their meeting, Sharon said he was sure his talks with Rice would "contribute to the friendly relations between the two countries." Sharon said he also expected her visit to contribute to the peace process, "which we want to very much want to push forward in the region."

In response, Rice said U.S.-Israel relations were solid "because we share not just interests but values." She said her goal was to "try to advance the cause of peace and to overcome the scourge of terrorism."

Before meeting Shalom, Rice said, "we will ask of our partners and our friends in Israel that Israel continues to make the hard decisions that must be taken in order to promote peace and... the emergence of a democratic Palestinian state.

"This is a time of optimism because fundamental changes are underway in the Middle East as a whole," she added.

After their meeting, Shalom told Channel 2 television that he gave Rice Israel's demands of the Palestinians.

"If the Palestinians do not to everything to halt the smuggling of weapons through tunnels, close the tunnels, close the weapons workshops, gather up illegal weapons - we would simply be giving the violent groups time to regroup and then carry out terror attacks that could collapse the whole process," he said.

On Monday, Rice will travel to the West Bank city of Ramallah for talks with Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia.

Tuesday's summit, hosted and initiated by Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in the resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh, will be attended by Sharon, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan's King Abdullah.

Although the U.S. has said that the secretary of state will not attend the talks, her agenda is likely to include in part a review of the plans for the summit.

Rice has signaled she prefers to see Sharon and Abbas make progress as free of foreign mediation as possible.

"I hope we would all get into a mind-set that says if the parties are able to continue to move on their own, that's the very best outcome," Rice told reporters en route to Ankara, the stop before Israel.

Preparations for the Egypt summit are being finalized, but not before her arrival.

Israeli officials assessed that the secretary of state would commend both sides on their recent efforts.

Paul Patin, a spokesman of the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv, said Rice would bring up a wide range of issues, including Israel's commitment under the internationally backed road map peace plan to dismantle dozens of unauthorized West Bank settlement outposts and Israeli gestures to the Palestinians, such as the removal of Israeli checkpoints that disrupt Palestinian travel - gestures that would bolster confidence in the new Palestinian leadership.

"Outposts are something that they promised to remove years ago and we expect them to abide by their commitments," Patin said.

She is also expected to call on the Palestinians to do more to restore security and bring an end to violence.

For their part, the Americans are trying to play down Rice's absence from the Egyptian summit.

"It is not necessary to participate at the highest level in every gathering in order to be a major player and part of the solution," a State Department spokesman explained Saturday.

In Israel, police raised their level of operations in various regions around the country Sunday, in anticipation of Rice's arrival and the run-up to Tuesday's summit.

Police decided to bolster forces around the country and checkpoints were set up between the seam line and various Israeli cities. Police will conduct both regular and undercover patrols.

Sharon may invite Mubarak Israeli officials, meanwhile, said Sunday that Sharon may invite his Egyptian counterpart to visit Israel during Tuesday's summit, as relations between the former enemies continue to flourish.

The invitations "is quite likely," said an unnamed official. "We would very much like him to come."

In recent months relations have improved as Egypt took a larger role in mediating between Israel and the Palestinians. The last visit by an Egyptian leader to Israel was by Mubarak in 1995, when he came to the funeral of assassinated prime minister Yitzhak Rabin.


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KEYWORDS: arielsharon; condoleezarice; disputedcapital; israel; jerusalem; palestinians; peaceprocess; rice; shalom; sharon; silvanshalom; unilateralsteps
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To: Huntingtonian

You forget a little problem wtih a muzzle theocracy in Tehran. It's about time to tell the iranian people to rise up and overthrow the mullahs or prepare to meet allah in a fiery cloud.


41 posted on 02/06/2005 2:24:22 PM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: SJackson
I don't think hardly any Jews (certainly not the settlers) will want to live in a Palestinian state, in which their communities are governed by such a state. If Abbas is smart, he should offer them full Palestinian citizenship, and honor their homesteads.
42 posted on 02/06/2005 2:24:28 PM PST by Torie
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To: anotherview

"What gives Secretary Rice the right to tell us what to do in our capital"

A few billion a year ?


43 posted on 02/06/2005 2:27:15 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: anotherview
Perhaps Dr. Rice's visit to Israel was make her first public appearance in the Middle East consistent with Colin Powell's previous comments. Give the Pali's a little time. They will explode all possibilities of peace with a reckless school bus bombing or some other vile undertakings. Then Sharon would be justified in seizing more Gaza territory. The Palis have a proven capacity to destroy the 'peace process.' The truth is that Hamas does not want peace. And Hamas controls the Palestinian government. 'Nuff said.
44 posted on 02/06/2005 2:30:01 PM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan

So we should wait for our children to die in the next pali pogrom to prove a point?


45 posted on 02/06/2005 2:32:32 PM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; anotherview; Quix; Jeremiah Jr; Lijahsbubbe
The only bouncing that would happen is Jews out of the free and democratic Palestinian State, including a Palestinian Jerusalem, which of course will be Jew free.

A Judenrein Judea is an abomination of desolation. A desolation as in "desolate without inhabitant". It's axiomatic. A Pali state standing where it ought not (in Judea) = a Judenrein Judea. Daniel was a prophet... when he was speaking to the kings of Babylon, rulers of Jerusalem at the time.

46 posted on 02/06/2005 2:32:58 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: F16Fighter
....Unless, the content has been pre-discussed and ok'd to air

So here's what I see the deal as.

Once again, Israel is expected to take the hits to literally save the world, just as they did when we were positioning ourselves in Iraq. We have Iran (VERY serious for Israel) and Syria to deal with and are trying to keep things from inflaming further.

Of course, mans' ways are not G-d's ways and may well invite further disaster.

47 posted on 02/06/2005 2:34:13 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Indie
TELLING them NOT to go after Iran, which is also none of our concern.

Iran with nukes is everyone's concern.

48 posted on 02/06/2005 2:36:22 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: dAnconia

ping to article and thread


49 posted on 02/06/2005 2:42:41 PM PST by Annie03
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To: Torie
The Palestinians need basically to accept the Barak deal

They had their chance and blew it, now it is no longer an option.

50 posted on 02/06/2005 2:45:08 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: ichabod1
I'm not saying that or even suggesting it. The truth is that Hamas will never permit peace in the Middle East. Even assuming that Abbas believes in 'peace' (i do not think the he does), he will dotter around with words and empty gestures while Hamas spins the Palis with talk of 'Jihad.' Hamas will destroy everything. Let them!

What I am saying is that Israel ought wipe out Hamas in Lebanon on the same day that there is an on attack Isreal.

51 posted on 02/06/2005 2:45:10 PM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Alouette

We shall see.


52 posted on 02/06/2005 2:49:08 PM PST by Torie
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To: anotherview

There should be two things everyone should keep in mind when they read these "US SecState tells Israel to bend over" threads.

1) The Secretary of State is charged with enacting the foreign policy decided by the President. Rice isn't saying anything Bush doesn't want her to.

2) The news media always gets it at least half-wrong.


53 posted on 02/06/2005 2:53:58 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: anotherview

The Israelis have bent over so far that they can kiss their own asses. Of course Americans think they can tell Israelis what to do. Under Sharon Israel has degenerated into a colony of the USA and Sharon has become a colonial governor. All the reasonable people warned that the pullout from Gaza would beget demands for more concessions not fewer.


54 posted on 02/06/2005 2:59:06 PM PST by Honestfreedom
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To: Yehuda
To be honest, I think it's all diplomatic horsepuckey.

The US knows that it needs to say certain things in order to enable Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. to justify supporting the war on terror to their populations.

Israel knows that the US has to say these things for diplomatic purposes.

Israel knows that the US will never militarily intervene or allow Europe or the Arab Axis to militarily intervene in Israel's internal security.

The status quo will continue until the "Palestinians" decide to stop acting like rabid animals and act like people for a change.

55 posted on 02/06/2005 3:54:51 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: anotherview
Rice said Sunday that the disengagement plan is an historic opportunity, and that the future security of Palestinians and Israelis will be ensured only by two states existing side by side.

It is insanity to give a hostile group of terrorists statehood. They will be free to ship in missiles, arms, and who knows what else as a free state. Giving these rabble statehood will destabilize the entire situation, even more than now.

56 posted on 02/06/2005 4:09:26 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Montrose1688
"2) If America wasn't so intent on arming Israel's enemies to the teeth..."



Let me guess, Americans are antisemitic ?


"And without that Jewish contribution America would just be another second-rate nation."

Oh, so American Jews are better, more valuable than other Americans ?


"4) If America did withdraw its support, my guess is that Israel's next partner would be China."

Nice choice.
59 posted on 02/06/2005 4:39:00 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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