Posted on 02/06/2005 6:45:18 AM PST by presidio9
You think that this is the only reason this kind of conduct is inappropriate? What stupid fool of a woman would allow men that she works with to see her act like this?
The wild-eyed rabid NAGs did.
I definately think the NCO's should be punished but nothing more than a loss of rank, transfer and a harsh verbal warning. The rest of the others probably could just use a harsh verbal warning and clean up & kitchen duty for a while.
You're right, many folks can't control themselves and will gravitate toward some sort of sex. Says a lot about self-control, or the lack thereof.
There are no beer joints and Strip bars in Iraq, no where for men to go for female entertainment and you have these pent up emotions boiling to get out., I am surpriused there isnt more of it than there is. These are young men and women not volunteers for the Seminary.
If you dont want women and men mixing dont mix them. Keep women out of the military.
I won't even touch your last comment - those threads go on for a good, long time!
Look, I lived and partied through the sixties. I know depraved behavior when I see it or do it.
This was just harmless typical young twenties rowdiness. It happens in every college fraternity and sorority. It happens at many office parties and it happens around the pool, from time to time, at most singles apartments in America, once the sun is down and the prigs have gone to bed.
I hate to disillusion you, but this is normal behavior for our youth.
So9
I know where you're coming from *but* there are times when you just have to let soldiers be people.
We had a similar situation after a pretty stressful six weeks when I was in the 101st. The commander left before the really good stuff got going but before he did leave he said, "Just don't wreck my barracks".
Good officers and NCOs "know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em". They may hang you out to dry when you get caught, but at least they'll give you the rope to hang yourself.
Is this a bit over the top? Probably. But all involved knew it when they did it.
Thanks for jumpin' right in, since my post wasn't direct to you in the first place.
But, please feel free to support these soldiers and their actions. I'm GLAD to see people supporting the military, eventhough I, personally, don't approve of their unprofessional behavior.
Don't worry. People like me will always be here to defend your right to ask us to explain and defend each and every little thing we've done to protect the freedoms you enjoy in our country. After twenty-plus years of doing so, I'm used to it. :)
Agreed. I hold an NCO to a higher standard, as I would a Commissioned Officer. Commanders and unit leaders establish the leadership climate within the unit. I expect more of them.
Nincompoops for generals, whores for soldiers, NCOa with IQs below room temperature!
Women do not belong with male troops!
Any nation that places women in combat or front-line (other than nurses) situations isn't worth defending!
NCO and commanders should have ONE rule..NO CAMERAS..
Wait the new video is coming out on DVD "AMAZON MPs GONE WILD" and will be advertised on the Howard Stern show and in Hustler Magine coming this summer.
What exactly is the big deal here? Isn't this thing to be expected when women are placed in combat roles in the military?
If women weren't present, this would only be some young soldiers having a good time relieving stress. But since women are present, oh my gosh!
Where are the feminist organizations like NOW in all this? They insisted women be treated as equals in the military and for them to be empowered to do whatever they want. Are they going to support these women's right to choose to mud wrestle or show their breasts?
If the military punishes these troops for some silly fun, even raunchy fun, then it will have to mete similar discipline upon all units with all-male members who always have their streakers, drinkers and party animals.
Lighten up for pete's sake. It's not as if they put dog collars on naked mass murderers and torturers.
I'm disappointed in the behavior of these female soldiers. Male soldiers drinking heavily....female soldiers stripping to their bra's and panties....they are lucky they didn't get raped!
Point taken, and you're correct about providing rope to hang one's self. Good comments...
Lighten up, Diana. If you don't want others to reply to a post - make it a private one.
While I was in uniform, there was a young miss about whom we'd get real quiet and simply clap once when she walked by.
Seems she had a habit.
She walked into a room, alone, with two Lieutenants, and came out about an hour later massively disheveled.
Stuff happens.
You do your darndest to make sure it doesn't happen among your group, but when it does you do your darndest to protect the innocent and punish what you can.
The incident I mentioned?
Nothing could be done since nothing was 'witnessed'.
These gals though are in a heap of trouble, as are the guys, simply due to there being photo evidence.
Besides which, this sort of thing was bound to happen anyway.
As a senior NCO or an officer you would be trying to make sure it doesn't happen to YOUR group.
When women weren't in combat zone and the soldiers weren't conducting guess what they did? Um...drink beer, get drunk, get a little rowdy...that type of stuff. At least when these cats go back on their mission, they do there job. Gloriously, I might add.
Americans are seen as debauched and immoral....
Are you kidding? Do you think that Islamofacists need something like this to see us as debauched and immoral when most movies, TV and music we exports "screams" that we are debauched and immoral?
These are people that cut off heads with knifes, stone their women and believe in their heart that killing you (a.k.a an infidel) will get them a place in Heaven.
A bunch of soldiers, men and women, got drunk and acted stupid. It's not the first time and it won't be the last that troops got a bit crazy as they were celebrating the end of their tour of duty..
"Yes. Normal behavior for college kids. But American soldiers fighting a war.."
And what demographic is fighting that war?
College kids.
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