Posted on 02/01/2005 10:22:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM
WASHINGTON — Pot. Cannabis. Hemp. Weed. Grass.
The herb takes many names. But in the nation’s capital, where the marijuana lobby (search) was once the recreational diversion of Playboy Magazine's Hugh Hefner, pro-pot special interest groups have crystallized the divergent issues behind the plant and gained a seemingly unified voice.
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"It’s a no-brainer. It makes no sense putting old and sick folks in jail for an herb that makes them feel better," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project (search), which was established in 1995 by Rob Kampia, a former mainstay at the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the first pro-pot lobby in Washington, D.C.
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Nitro smells wonderful too. Watching top fuel on TV is nothing like being there. Big clouds of burning rubber, the bleachers and the ground shake, noise is unbelievable.
Very exhilirating. I can't imagine what it must be like to drive one. Fastest I ever went was mid nine's around 150 mph (that was on a motorcycle). The old vette was no slouch though. It also had a 300 hp nitrous system. More power then I could put to the ground cause I wouldn't butcher the car to put real slicks under it, so I used road race slicks (ten inch). It ran low 11's at about 126 mph.
I miss that old vette (tear rolls down cheek). Sold it to build my house when I got married.
It's an old story. Guy builds up killer car. Guy gets married. Guy sells killer car.
"The NESARC study -- a representative survey of the U.S. civilian noninstitutionalized population aged 18 years and older - showed that the rate of alcohol abuse* increased from 3.03 to 4.65 percent across the decade while the rate of alcohol dependence**, commonly known as alcoholism, declined from 4.38 to 3.81 percent. The study appears in the current issue of Drug and Alcohol Dependence (Volume 74, Number 3, pages 223-234)."
www.niaaa.nih.gov/press/2004/NESARCNews.htm
This needs to be adjusted to the percentage of those who drink (8.46% divided by your 62.7% = 13.5% of those who drink), but reduced since this includes underage 18-20 year olds (who drink heavily).
My 10% (who abuse alcohol) is pretty close.
I think it's usually a "domestic tranquility" issue. Women are attracted to fast cars, and they tend to consider them (probably rightly) as "bait". They don't see any reason for you to need to keep the bait once you've caught your limit.
What a trip, filling up with planes in line behind me, engines running.
Had to put an end to it, though. The airport manager said it was illegal since the price did not contain any road use taxes (obviously).
I tried to convince him that I was just "flying low" myself, but he didn't buy it. Those were the days.
Probably 90% of drinkers use alcohol responsibly.269 Responsible social drinkers do not drink with the intent of getting high.301
Proving that 10% abuse alcohol does not prove that 90% have no intent of getting high.
And you want hard-core proof about the intent of that 90%. Yeah. Right. I'll work on that for you.
Think about it. If a portion of that 90% drank with the intent of abusing alcohol (ie., getting high, getting drunk), they're not real sucessful, are they? I mean, if they were, they'd show up as abusing alcohol.
I don't do cut and paste and have no desire to refute your contention that J used or grew pot. Since you have no idea of my views on this matter I will tell you that I am for decriminalization and legalization. Even the most powerful pot is not as dangerous as alcohol. Actually even heroin is not as dangerous.
I went to that site but found nothing for Jefferson, pot, or marijuana. Is there something else I should be looking under?
Don't make such a ridiculous statement, unless you can back it up.
...I think it's usually a "domestic tranquility" issue. Women are attracted to fast cars, and they tend to consider them (probably rightly) as "bait". They don't see any reason for you to need to keep the bait once you've caught your limit...
That's pretty funny my friend. Hahaha. They haven't invented the car that's fast enough to outrun the clap either.
Marijuana is the most widely used illicit drug in the United States (cocaine is second), although usage is not as high as it was in the late 1970s. The National Institute on Drug Abuse reports that nearly 62 million Americans over the age of 12-- about one in three-- have tried marijuana at least once. Pot is a crude preparation of various parts of the Indian hemp plant. THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) is the main active ingredient in marijuana.
Regular users of marijuana can develop a marked tolerance to the drug, but physical dependence characterized by significant withdrawal symptoms has not been well established in either human or animal studies. Marijuana remains a complex and poorly understood drug-- further research is needed to determine its precise physiological and psychological effects. -Go Ask Alice.
Yup. Just like BC Powders. I've got my girlfriend down to two a day. She doesn't like it but I'm proud of her.
Perhaps. I'll bet the figure was much lower during Prohibition.
At least you are an old hotrodder. Most racing folks I ever met were nice people. One of the upsides besides the thrill.
That bike I rode way back when set two national records. I wasn't riding it at the time though. Too busy playing music and I think my dad might have figured that is was kind of dangerous.
Look it up if you can, since you like fact and sources. Jacoby/Chadwell. Around 79 to 81 I'd guess. E.T. and MPH records for IDBA. One each in A altered turbo and B altered turbo.
You'd have liked my dad. He was a hoot, plus, he was a smart fellow. Those drag race records aren't that easy to come by, trust me. He was something special.
Sorry, got a little busy here and I had someone else in mind when I replied.
You have to use the search at the top of the page.
Here's a link to a marijuana history page in the database.
Search the stuff you find interesting on this page in the database.
http://www.homoexcelsior.com/omega.db/datum/pharmacology/an_abbreviated_history_of_cannabis/8667
Where did I say that? I think we ought to start with free honest elections. So that the Demopublicans lose their lock on power and we can return to the republican government lost under the socialist take-over and creation of the one-party system.
Take the drug money out of drugs and it will remove a substantial portion of the problems associated with drugs.
I live in a real world. Where are you? In some drug free utopia enforced by gun point? I love when Republicans sound like the liberals they oppose. They don't mind big government programs when it comes to their idea of what a sin is.
I have heard recently that red (purple) grapes/juice works as well as red wine. As for alcohol I think it is nearly harmless in small daily amounts and quite possibly beneficial. I personally drink so little and so infrequently that it can do me no harm nor benefit and it's meaningless to consider myself a drinker. But that's a personal preference.
I have long considered alcohol the king of drugs in that category of drugs used for pleasure and escape. It might be healthy to drink a little every day and it has the ability to kill you by slow degeneration of the liver, kidneys and brain and it can kill you outright from overdose.
It is pleasurable and sociable in small quantities, stimulating and inebriating in moderate quantities and deranging and debilitating in larger quantities.
It is powerfully addictive but only to a small percentage of those who use it. Predicting who is susceptible to its addictive powers is difficult to be precise about. Addiction can take quite some time to take hold and become manifest. (Compare that to opiates or coca derivatives where strong addiction is at or near 100% for all who use them repeatedly over a very short period of time.) That ambiguity makes alcohol kind of scary.
It presents the young drinker with a question: 'Are you just "one of the boys" who will move on with life when the party days are over or will you find that you're a slave to the bottle?' Only one way to find out!
That's all true, but really, physicians don't use it much for most those purposes do they?
Firstly, you didn't give that as a parameter, you simply said 'Medical uses.' Secondly, it probably depends on the doc. Doctors recommend many things that aren't prescription drugs or necessarily uniformly recommended by physicians.
For the most part you're right. With the advent of thousands of new, specific remedies, both Rx and over-the-counter, a simple remedy like booze probably doesn't get much attention. That doesn't alter its efficacy. I also think it's a bit of a PC and PR thing. Because alcohol is so well known for its baser uses and is addictive docs have likely shied away from it for a long time. It's also a drug company sales thing.
In my late twenties I severely injured my leg doing construction work. My dad gave me Hydrocod or some codeine based pain killer for it. It worked so poorly that after two days I flushed it and used beer to keep myself drunk-but-not-too-drunk for a week until the pain and swelling were gone. Alcohol worked great where the almighty opiate failed miserably.
You sound like you have a bit of a medical background.
My father was a doctor and I am an herbalist. I like simple remedies. My dad gave us Cola syrup when we had colds. He gave us saline solution to gargle when we had sore throats. Mom put cold wash towels on our foreheads when we had fevers. In my teens I discovered for myself that decongestant and anti-histamine type cold remedies reduced the symptoms and prolonged the infection.
The only way to do that is to make all drugs, including prescription drugs, legal to all ages. The "under 21" group represents a large portion of the drug market (even larger with legalization), unlike alcohol or cigarettes -- large enough to form an underground economy attractive to gangs.
Furthermore, the gangs will love the fact that the United States is now THE place to manufacture and grow drugs for export to the rest of the world without being hassled by the authorities. Hell, we'll have international gangs shooting it out in our streets for control of the huge export market.
Poppy fields, acres of marijuana, coca plantations, and meth labs will form the new landscape of America. Ah, the Libertarian wet dream.
Oh, you say that won't be allowed? That we'll enforce export restrictions (you jackbooted thug, you!)? Who? Not the DEA, they're gone. Who's going to monitor the borders of all 50 states? All the airports?
Oh, and if "Dallas Opium" is being smuggled into France, do they have the right to fly over and burn poppy fields in Texas (as we do in other countries)?
Take the money out of drugs my a$$. You haven't really thought this through, have you?
I would guess the same. Which leads one to conclude that removing prohibition (criminalization) would increase the number of users, thereby forcing the hardcore abusers back into a minority.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it you who said that drug use wouldn't increase with legalization? That those who want to do drugs are doing them today? The mere legalization will not "cause" people to suddenly take up drugs?
That's not at all true of cigarettes. There has been a black market for them for a long time and they're more attractive than ever with the huge tax burden on them now.
That's the bottom line for all of your speculations.
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