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A Challenge for the all "illegal Immigration" obsessed freepers.

Posted on 01/31/2005 8:31:00 PM PST by jveritas

Edited on 01/31/2005 8:36:26 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

In the last three months the obsessed minority of freepers but very vocal who hate President Bush have been bombarding us with every illegal immigration thread under the sun so they have their "BASH BUSH ORGY".

Since these freepers want to deport every illegal immigrant, here is the challenge for you:

Pick up your phone and report to the INS about an illegal immigrant and his employer. I am sure you know at least one illegal immigrant who works in a convenient store, on a gas station, clean the garbage in your office, clean the bathroom at your work place... And I am sure you know one of these employers who hire illegal immigrants. Go ahead Macho Guys, do your duty and report them to the INS. Let us see how courageous you are and let us see your action following your rhetoric.

Go ahead, ping each other and show us your heroism.


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To: Joe Hadenuf
Disturbingly enough, many here consider that Bush Bashing.

Are you kidding? Dissent makes you downright seditious around here.

361 posted on 02/01/2005 4:52:38 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (Better to have government by the masses than government by the asses.)
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To: JFK_Lib
Mexicans are good folks

I agree with that, no problem, but there are exceptions. For example, gang-banger homies and Aztlan pindejos.

362 posted on 02/01/2005 4:56:02 PM PST by Marauder (... shall NOT be infringed. Now do you get it?)
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To: jveritas

Okay, so why would you support "cheaters" and criminals, aka illegal aliens?

And yeah, I will browse this thread more thoroughly when I have more time.


363 posted on 02/01/2005 5:06:11 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: AuntB

Banned? Nah, You should post more.


365 posted on 02/01/2005 5:07:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: jveritas

OK, you asked for it. I have (while living in south Texas), repeatedly reported illegal immigrants. I was given lame excuses in each case. Finally after watching a news story about the BP turning loose 8 illegals it had chased through Fallfurias, TX (near where our President goes hunting btw), I decided to look further for help. I searched through the BCIS site until I found a number for an office in Vermont which takes complaints about BP inaction, etc. I phoned them, I phoned Houston, I phoned San Antonio. I filed a formal complaint against the regional offices.
I DO NOT use illegal immigration to "bash" President Bush. It is just a sore subject for me. I'm not even against LEGAL immigration, as my husband is a LEGAL immigrant.
A huge majority of the people in S. TX that hire illegal Mexican and S. American immigrants are themselves Hispanic. In Laredo for example only 4% of the population is "anglo" fewer than 1% of non-corporate businesses are owned by "anglos". They are only hurting us and themselves. And maybe it has escaped your attention that "white" Mexicans treat "brown" Mexicans like dirt. They subject them not only to harsh working conditions, but also degradation, sexual and physical abuse and often cruelty. Racism is NOT just a white persons game. I have lived and worked in Mexico with it's "underclasses", who are ignored by the "White Spanish" Mexicans. I know who's coming to dinner, and I don't mind setting a place for them as long as the bring a stone for the soup, and wash up before they go home.
The second thing that I would like to point out to you is that your lexis and sytax show that you speak English at a high beginner or intermediate level with Spanish as a first language. You wouldn't be harping on this issue for some hidden reason would you? Did La Raza or LULAC put you up to this? Are you an illegal resident of the USA?
Man... I can feel the boot already


366 posted on 02/01/2005 5:13:42 PM PST by Heartland Hattie (Freedom, defend it.)
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To: jveritas

IF you, by chance, have the testicular fortitude to admit here, in this forum, that YOU hire illegals - try me and see how fast I can report your @SS.


367 posted on 02/01/2005 5:27:45 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: jveritas
I am sure you know at least one illegal immigrant who works in a convenient store, on a gas station, clean the garbage in your office, clean the bathroom at your work place..

If I knew the person to definitely be illegal, I would have no qualms (and in fact HAVE) reported someone in the past.

Unfortunately, people don't go around with stickers pasted on their foreheads proclaiming themselves to be legal or illegal.

My beef with illegals is not so much the security/terrorist issue, it is the fact that society is unable to absorb the huge influx. Thus we have pockets of people, many criminal types, who are resisting any assimilation into American society.

For those who think illegals are good for our society, I invite them to take a drive through just about any mid-sized city where there are blocks and blocks of families stuffed into homes, no english, much drugs, knife fights daily, with crime running rampant.

Of course there are good and bad in every ethnicity, but the large influx of central american illegals seems to be packed to the gills with gang members, drug dealers, and others looking to prey on the good nature of Americans.

368 posted on 02/01/2005 5:37:56 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Heartland Hattie
Good post Hattie.

Seems the author is this piece is getting his bell rung, and should.

Take care.

369 posted on 02/01/2005 5:40:19 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: AuntB

AuntB, seems we gals got the straight skinny on the whole darned mess. Now, I'm off to bake some cookies.


370 posted on 02/01/2005 5:47:25 PM PST by Heartland Hattie (Freedom, defend it.)
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To: AuntB
And yes, we get snippy when someone calls us racist or worse because our lives and communities have been changed for the worse and the powers that be, say -TOUGH!

ESPECIALLY when they aren't even an American. Talk about nerve!

371 posted on 02/01/2005 5:59:53 PM PST by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: F16Fighter

Don't you believe the law should be enforced?

Maybe it's contingent upon the President to see to it that the INS and law enforcement are given priority to do so.


Exactamundo. One executive order would make this happen.


372 posted on 02/01/2005 6:02:16 PM PST by conshack
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To: jveritas
Then California need to elect more conservative Republicans

Rather hard to do in a liberal state that has liberal judges, liberal Hollywood and several million illegal aliens and their liberal relatives.

373 posted on 02/01/2005 6:04:39 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: conshack; jveritas
"Don't you believe the law should be enforced?

Maybe it's contingent upon the President to see to it that the INS and law enforcement are given priority to do so."

"Exactamundo. One executive order would make this happen."

And THE moment Dubya Bush gives the order, we KNOW he and the administration are serious about "Homeland Security."

Until then, it's lip service.

374 posted on 02/01/2005 6:13:14 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter

And THE moment Dubya Bush gives the order, we KNOW he and the administration are serious about "Homeland Security."

Until then, it's lip service.


If the lip service continues and GW waits too long, the country will be bankrupt. The 36,000,000 kids that Kerry said were uninsured for healthcare will be more like 136,000,000 by the time Shillary talks about it.


376 posted on 02/01/2005 6:20:45 PM PST by conshack
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To: jveritas

jveritas, are you here legally?


377 posted on 02/01/2005 6:26:18 PM PST by TXnMA (Attention, ACLU: There is no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: jveritas
In the 1950's the US government launched "Operation Wetback" to deport over one million illegal immigrants from Mexico and they failed miserably because it created a huge backlash

Where did you get this rewritten history? Drago told you to look it up on Google six weeks ago. Here's a description from a Cato economist wonk (due to it's very name it's difficult to find references to Operation Wetback that aren't tainted by a writer's political agenda):

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- " In 1954 the INS made a concerted effort to control the flows. The result was called "Operation Wetback" and universally deemed a success. The 1955 INS annual report concluded that "the so-called 'wetback' problem no longer exists.... The border has been secured." The commissioner of the INS who accomplished this feat was retired Army General Joseph Swing, who was appointed in the spring of 1954. The INS annual report reveals the tactics and character of Operation Wetback.

A large scale task force operation in the Southwest, working in proximity of the border, accounted for a great majority of apprehensions. This "Special Mobile Force Operation" began in California in the last days of fiscal 1954 and after the backbone of the wetback invasion was broken in California, shifted to South Texas. Mobile task forces were assembled and set into action. Light planes were used in locating illegal aliens and directing ground jeeps to effect apprehensions. Transport planes were used to airlift aliens to staking areas for prompt return to Mexico....

These activities were followed by mopping up operations in the interior and special mobile force units are continuing to discover illegal aliens who have eluded initial sweeps through such cities as Spokane, Chicago, Ransas City and St. Louis, which removed 20,174 illegal Mexican aliens from industrial jobs.

Advocates of increased enforcement should recall the militaristic tactics used in Operation Wetback and the price paid by the Mexican-American community. The incentives for immigration are so strong that it can't be stopped with anything short of military force."
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President Eisenhower instituted this operation due to cries from agricultural interests when too many of the "braceros" they brought in found industrial work to be far more lucrative than the pittance they were paid by the growers. Post WWII America also had no more need for the Mexicans who (like women as a group) shored up the labor shortage the war caused. When the troops were decommissioned the women went back to their traditional roles as homemakers and the Mexicans were distinctly alien bodies in the way of societies returning heroes (yet another instance of a group's refusal to assimilate with their host society backfiring on them).

One thing the economist failed to mention was the way illegal immigrants began to self-deport as word of the operation spread. Some estimates account for around half a million self-deporting, far more than the number actually rounded up and forcibly deported. This is why I maintain on these threads that just beginning prosecutions of the blatant employers, cutting as many services as possible, a serious crackdown on document frauds and making the motions toward mass roundups will find a seeming miracle occur - mass exodus of illegals on their own dime. Hopefully they'll finally take up the long put-off business of improving their own governments and societies.

By the way, keep your eyes open out there. You may have heard what happened to a nice family of Egyptian Coptics in New Jersey. The fanatics responsible for that would surely like to get their hands on you and everyone else they consider apostates.

378 posted on 02/01/2005 6:38:22 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Unrepentent politically-incorrect Nativist who believes America comes first (because we earned it)
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To: conshack
"If the lip service continues and GW waits too long, the country will be bankrupt. The 36,000,000 kids that Kerry said were uninsured for healthcare will be more like 136,000,000 by the time Shillary talks about it."

And we can assume Hitlery will have to dust off those 12 year old secret "plans" she cooked up for socialized health care to "help heal" the nation.

Dubya's ignoring this issue is going to bite us in the @ss in 2008 in more ways than one.

379 posted on 02/01/2005 6:38:26 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: jveritas
Listen Racist

How did you get that out of his response to your attack?

He did not mention race anywhere in his post or anywhere on this thread.

BTW, why are you not a Citizen yet?

380 posted on 02/01/2005 6:39:07 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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