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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I've got to get out of here and you keep pulling me back in. 8~) Sacraments enhance our beliefs and our lives, THEY DO NOT GIVE US GRACE.

They do!

How can they enhance your beliefs when it is God that gives you faith.

Salvation is of the Lord alone, according to His ordained will from before the foundation of the world, based solely upon His good counsel and nothing within ourselves. Or else it's salvation by the work of man, and not of God alone. Rome/Geneva. Monergism/synergism.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved-Bible.

P.S. faith is not a work. (Rom.4:4-5)

827 posted on 01/27/2005 5:24:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration; HarleyD; thePilgrim; RnMomof7
"And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 2 Thessalonians 2:8-14.

Every page of Scripture declares salvation is of the Lord alone, ordained by Him "from the beginning."

Because we "receive the love of the truth," we are saved. Nowhere does it say because we choose to accept the truth we are saved.

835 posted on 01/27/2005 11:47:00 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: fortheDeclaration; HarleyD
"For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." -- Romans 12:3

Every page of Scripture resonates with the same sound -- His will alone.

836 posted on 01/27/2005 11:58:10 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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