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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob
What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?
While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.
Stars with bars:
Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.
Some things are better left dead in the past:
For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.
Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.
Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:
So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?
Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.
This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.
Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.
At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.
So what do you think of this movie?
[GOPcap] "your transvestite hero" (Lyon disguised in a dress)[Capitan_refugio] I made no reference to Jefferson Davis, nor is he my hero.
Don't expect him to recognize that he did it - after all, he denied it in the next post, on the same thread. In a sick, twisted way, it's very Monty Python.
If you feel the need to respond, respond to the point he is making, not his spelling of a word!
Who of us has not misspelled or misused a word?
Chef Dajuan. He was born in Cleveland, Ohio and now lives in western Pennsylvania. He's 18 and will soon be attending culinary arts school. His dream is to become a chef, hopefully a famous one like Emeril Lagasse or Mario Hatali. He plans on opening his own restaurant someday, and from the looks of his post he's got you southron types figured out.
I would disagree that the south didn't even try, they just kept getting whipped. At Iuka, at Perryville, at Stone River, at Shiloh, at Memphis and New Orleans and Fort Donalson, The south had too much border to defend and too few troops and competent leaders to defend it.
There you go, quoting from Commies again....or incredibly biased authors...I keep getting them mixed up...GOP would know.
From the looks of it, some people are better off sticking with what they know.
Then threads like this would never reach 5000 posts.
Here is what Reagan had to say regarding the Declaration of Independence. Message on the Observance of Independence Day, 1986 July 3, 1986...
It is a day not only for celebration but also for reflection -- a day to ponder what it was that forged 13 diverse colonies into an unbreakable union (emphasis added) that has endured and grown and prospered for more than two centuries. What was the secret that emboldened a loose confederation of some two and a half million settlers on the Eastern rimland of the New World to challenge the might of the most powerful colonial empire on earth?
Quite simply, it was the courage and the vision of our Founding Fathers. They seized the unique historical moment Providence had placed within their grasp. Determined to protect and guarantee fundamental human rights, they felt called upon to bring our nation into being.
In order to give that new nation shape and direction they drew freely on the riches of the Judeo-Christian tradition with its central affirmation that God, not chance, rules in the affairs of men, and that each of us has an inviolable dignity because we have been fashioned in the image and likeness of our Creator. The Founding Fathers established a nation under God, ruled not by arbitrary decrees of kings or the whims of entrenched elites but by the consent of the governed. Theirs was the vision of a striving, God-fearing, self-reliant people living in the sunlight of justice and breathing the bracing air of liberty.
As the years unrolled, generations of Americans painted that vision across the broad canvass of the continent. It has always been the secret of our progress, our power, and our prosperity. Whenever we have allowed it to fade we have done so at our peril. Whenever it has burned bright we have amazed the world with our inventiveness, our daring, our achievements, and our magnanimity.
Through the years, America's promise of liberty and justice for all served as a magnet, drawing to our shores millions of people yearning to breathe the heady air of freedom. They flocked here from every continent, bringing with them the riches of their customs and their cultures; precious strands of every color, tone, and texture, to be woven into the rich tapestry of America.
And still they come, drawn by the promise of liberty under law, guided still by the beacon light of liberty whose most majestic symbol -- newly refurbished this year -- is the Lady with the Lamp who stands in New York harbor. Her high-held torch beams forth the same message that the Liberty bell rang out more than 200 years ago, the message of Leviticus: ``Proclaim liberty throughout the land, unto all the inhabitants thereof.''
As we celebrate this day, let us draw closer to all of our fellow citizens in common purpose guided by a common vision. Let all Americans like one grateful family honor our Founding Fathers and all who have worked and fought and died to keep their dream alive. Let us renew our commitment to the message and the meaning of the Declaration of Independence:
``That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. . . ''
The Declaration was what Calhoun and the other 'state righters' rejected.
How about biased commie authors!
LOL!
Forgot the link.
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1986/70386a.htm
why not stop posting IGNORANT bilge on FR & head over to DU, where FOOLS dwell???
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LTC MOSBY wasn't called THE GRAY GHOST for nothing.
remind me sometime to tell you about how CHAIN BRIDGE RD got it's name.
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must be a "generation thing".
make MINE Marilyn,Ann Margaret,Catherine Denueve or someone CURVY of that sort.
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great chefs have BRAINS & CLASS.
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And in 1787 that 'union' was abandoned, a new union was formed from any 9 that chose to SECEDE from the 13 Reagan referred to.
Furthermore, none of the comments you produced were in any way negative toward Bush, nor were any of those comments written by anyone whom I'd construe as being a regular Unionist participant on these threads. In short, nothing that would support GOPcapitalist introducing 'Bush bashing' without referring to comments made elsewhere.
Let me add that for your diligence in seaching through this 5000 post thread for the word Bush in order to build your casus bellum against me, you are now now on the short list to replace NoClue Chan as the neo-confederate cultist's number one stepandfetchit'. Congratulations.
No, they chose to form a more perfect Union under the Constitution.
Keep in mind that book reviews from a "refereed scholarly journal" are not, themselves, peer-reviewed.
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