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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob
What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?
While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.
Stars with bars:
Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.
Some things are better left dead in the past:
For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.
Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.
Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:
So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?
Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.
This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.
Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.
At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.
So what do you think of this movie?
Once the trash has been thrown out, it is best it be left out.
Therein lies the problem.
That was clear from the passage that was intially posted. The Union forces captured several several "abandoned" forts in west Texas. But then again, are they really "abandoned" when you leave your sick and wounded behind? Or have the soldiers been abandoned?
Racists come in all colors. The last few banned seemed to have all been of the southern persuasion. (I include the one hit wonders who recently stunk up the thread you guys got pulled.)
An excellent point. I have made similar observations to the owners. If you can rein in your drunkards and cheap shot artists, maybe it can get back to that level.
Do I detect a detente?
Only he can get himself banned. He failed to get me banned, despite his lies.
Your peculiar response is perplexing and obviously detached from any basis in reality.
Devoted pupils of 'Tommy D' are known for such bizarre verbal manifestations.
More lies by GOPcrapitalist.
He exposed information about himself and had several of his own hot-headed post pulled. He then complained he was being cyber-stalked - a rouse he has tried before. When I received an inquiry from Jim Robinson, I explained the bogus nature of the complaint. He said that he was "unaware of the posting history" and that he would take a look at the thread. Those FReepmails were in the first week of February.
NO warnings. NO sanctions. NO suspensions. NO bans.
It is easy to tell when GOPcrapitalist is lying - he's posting.
The last place any moderators would want to be stuck, is in a Smokey Back-room 'Civil War thread'.
Could the justifiable reasoning be they are more then aware of the hysterical, grating 'confederate catechism' preached on such threads?
It's no wonder these threads are simply removed, thanks to GOP-crud & his trained rebel seals.
No, here is the mechanism. The mods do the banning. If you impetrate a banning from the mods, they still do the banning, but your representations effect the ban.
If you summon Godzilla to step on Bambi, then you are still morally responsible for Bambi's demise -- a responsibility you share with Godzilla, but it is yours nevertheless, and in no way assignable to Bambi: "Well, that stupid little deer made me do it! By being stupid! It needed to be stepped on!"
Your own malice made you do it.
Careful, your slip is showing.
Uh, not correct. Nolu chan was banned on February 8th, bushpilot about two days later. I don't know when CSSFlorida was banned, or why. Another poster got a time-out sometime later -- again, you and Espinola were around and fired red flares over something he wrote on the subject of retaliation in time of war and the possible sequelae of the notorious Dahlgren Raid of 1864. You two tried to get that other poster banned, didn't you?
Don't play cute with us. We know better -- you can't brag about getting people run off in Post 123, and then claim you're innocent and it's all a canard in Post 140.
That your substantiation of your "hate-mongering" charge against DiLorenzo, that I challenged you to put up? Figures.
Give it a rest.
I truly think he's in denial about himself!
It's truly moved beyond the point of reason. He's convinced himself that his stalker posts didn't get pulled but rather that it was something of my own revelation! And of course he didn't disappear completely from this forum from 1/26/05 to 2/21/05...it was all for "business" and in reality he was posting here all along even though there's absolutely no record of it! And sure, there was no censure of his stalker tactics cause that "cease and desist" note he got from the management wasn't really meant for him! I suppose by this time next week he'll be attributing the faked court rulings and faked west texas battles to us as well...no wait. He already IS attributing the west texas battle he faked to us!
The flip side is a real (winner), Tommy's failed attempt at barnyard hip hop, 'Lost cause it, lost cause it'. Pitiful.
Now go take a nap & count bails of cotton.
Have you noticed that how when their habitually sporadic henchman ftD isn't around, their ranks on these threads dwindle to two? Heck, the tu quoque parrot doesn't even seem to be engaged on this thread anymore! In the meantime there are what - 4, 5, maybe 6 on our side who have posted here today? And yet they're the ones talking about supposed "KIAs" and our dwindling ranks. There's truly a Baghdad Bob element to the remaining members of the Wlat Brigade these days.
Precisely. The 'crapper's attempt to get me banned backfired! I got no warnings, suspension, or ban. That's a fact. And I had time to alert all of the active sane posters of the increased scutiny on the thread. I believe the phrase I used in those Freepmails was, "give them enough rope, and they'll hang themselves."
And you guys did. You have no one to blame but yourselves, and especially the 'crapper, for bringing the increased scuntiny to the thread. I take no credit for getting anyone banned; I simply note that, in defending myself from the 'crapper's lies, the content of the neo-reb posts evidently became an issue. Why, exactly, each of those posters were bounced, I don't know. I know what the neo-reb line is - it wasn't their fault ... the unionists got them ... they were ticked ... the bannings were absurd. But that a couple of them were totally purged from the system must be some insight as to the severity of their offenses. And that they were in the madst of justifying assassination and posting comments about "baboon emancipators" and other epithets, should give you pause.
Believe me, if I were a moderator or had some inordinate pull with them, you wouldn't be here to recieve this post.
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