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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob
What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?
While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.
Stars with bars:
Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.
Some things are better left dead in the past:
For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.
Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.
Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:
So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?
Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.
This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.
Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.
At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.
So what do you think of this movie?
What would you know about sobriety?
They were given pardons and amnesty. For the most part, they accepted such. For those who did not, there were the disabilities of the 14th Amendment. A number of former confederates repented for their crimes and became again worthy American citizens, in the fullest sense.
They were given pardons and amnesty. For the most part, they accepted such. For those who did not, there were the disabilities of the 14th Amendment. A number of former confederates repented for their crimes and became again worthy American citizens, in the fullest sense.
"These people were citizens of another country, and not citizens of the United States."
You can certainly renounce your citizenship, if you wish. You just can't steal the the loyal citizens' country away from them.
That's been quoted, and it is not an "order." It appears to be Dahlgren's personal plan.
When you post obnoxious, racist, violent content, you're going to get the thread pulled or your a$$ bounced.
Amen.
Thus, the actions to defend themselves is legimate due to the type of enemy they are fighting.
They´re coming to take YOU away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And YOU´LL be happy to see
Those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they´re coming to take YOU away!
(apologies to Napolean XIV)
Your words.
I think they already did. :) The two vultures, crap & crud have all of a sudden disappeared.
Another hit and run, then a crawl back into the swamp.
It would appear the whole world and everyone in it are their chosen enemies. Sad & sick.
The swamp????
More like a garbage can.
Conservatives? Since when are libertarian economic cultists and southern separatists "conservative"?
Lol, oh brother, there is no way anyone completely sober could even dream up the stuff you type.
Would anyone else wish to issue a comment regarding the question from 'you-know-who'.
Recent reports indicated they departed from their garbage can, returned to the swamp, but as of this posting were seen slithering back in the general direction of the garbage can, although in their present condition, (everyone is now clear on which condition) it may take them awhile, prior to reaching home.
The 'South' lost again. :)
Islam believes it is God's will that it conquer the world.
They are going to get the shock of their lives when Christ comes back and sets up a Jewish Kingdom.
Who are you to ask?
Troll.
You're lying in your teeth, and everyone on this board knows it. Your discourse is so poisonous, rattlesnakes wouldn't touch it.
When you post obnoxious, racist, violent content, you're going to get the thread pulled or your a$$ bounced.
Cite and quote examples of each, troll. Prove I'm a "racist", with "violence" in my black little heart. Post an example of "racist" discourse by our side, Slimer.
You're just smearing people because you have a hall pass from your sponsors. You get threads pulled when people post proof you're a knowing liar who puts up phonied-up "quotations" from authority, passing off one text as another. You pretend it didn't happen, and then when things get a little tight around the collar, you cry to your big brother and get the thread nuked. You've rung up at least 6,000 posts' worth of threads just to CYA. You're such a piece of work ...... and yet you've proven repeatedly, you don't have enough character to justify even holding a conversation with. You're personally dishonest, you've a bloodthirstiness about you that would gag a leech, and you have a taste for calumny, brutality, and wantonness in your posts -- and yet you manage to make it all seem so boring somehow.
You guys have lost this argument on substance. Repeatedly. There's nothing really left to talk about, except your buddy's flair for hijacking bandwidth from IB's. And when GOP or someone goes to bed at 3 a.m., you try to imagine to yourselves somehow that you have "run him off", you have "silenced" him with the scintillating epee work of your witty posting......when in all likelihood, he has passed out from sheer boredom.
Later, trolls. And I mean that in the Norse sense of the word.
Furthermore, the whole of Article 148 is intended to reinforce the idea that even an enemy should be accorded the opportunity for a hearing ... before he is executed for his treasonable conduct.
Oh, so we are to capture Osama bin Laden, then give him a hearing, a trial, 3 squares and 72 virgins, and then execute him? That's your definition of 'retaliatory' measures?
You continue to err by mischaracterizing Dahlgren's personal notes as "orders."
Do you think Lincoln to be an idiot, that would issue this: "Assassinate Jeff Davis and Cabinet"? The only do that on TV so idiots can understand, in the real world no one is going to leave an explicit paper trail. Butler had already failed, Kilpatrick then met with Lincoln, Dahlgren met with Lincoln, Dalgren wrote his father about his glorious mission and the fame it would bring him, and Dahlgren had orders and personal papers on his person indicating that Richmond was to be destroyed, Jeff Davis and cabinet killed. A moron can understand what that means.
Even if you believe that the Dahlgren Raid was a planned assassination attempt, it was a failure. There was no assassination. There was nothing to retaliate against.
So if some terrorist attempts to assassinate our President, we have to wait before they are successful BEFORE before executing retaliatory measures?
You're insane.
Well said and quite fitting.
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