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Confederate States Of America (2005)
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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob

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To: rustbucket
"You ... you ... you invisible clauser, you"

Insult? lol, in relation to the verbal on slots in here, that's a stunning compliment! :)

I am not in agreement with lining up innocent Iraqi civilians, but jihadic creeps, once captured, should be lined up and made to wear panties on their heads which would be an improvement over the used dishrags.

Anything would look better then this Halloween outfit!

4,501 posted on 04/07/2005 9:37:46 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
No. I have over 20 direct and collateral familial ancestors that fought for freedom from England in the Revolutionary War, and another 26 that fought for self government in the War of Northern Agression.

And I have two (that I know of) that fought for the Union during the Civil War, one of them getting his leg shot off. And I've seen them and all who fought for the north reviled on these threads as rapists, thieves, arsonists, mass murderers, as stooges and lackies of a tyrant who puts Stalin to shame. It's been implied that anyone who fought under the flag of the United States in that war was a fool who didn't understand the intent of the founders, that all they cared about was putting the south under their collective thumb and destroying individual liberties to create a modern proto-fascist state. That they fought to collect tariffs, that they fought because they hated southern Christian values, that they hated and feared blacks, that they just hated the south.

So you go ahead and honor your ancestors. Let them lie in their cemeteries under the Confederate flag. Hold your memorial services. I've got no problem with that. But don't expect me to accept that my ancestors, who answered the call of the United States in her time of peril, who fought and sacrificed under the Stars and Stripes, were evil or deluded.

4,502 posted on 04/07/2005 9:39:40 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: rustbucket

So I assume that you consider Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be war crimes, no?


4,503 posted on 04/07/2005 9:42:45 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Modernman
how many MILLIONS of LIBERTY-seeking civilians would YOU be willing to KILL, this time to keep AZ,CA,CO,NM & NV from leaving the union????

the last go-round UNARMED civilians (like MY family for example) and HELPLESS CSA POWs were "the most favored target" of the bluebellies, especially those persons of "minority" racial/religious groups, as it was certainly easier & MUCH SAFER than fighting the valiant, ARMED, "lads in gray".

free dixie,sw

4,504 posted on 04/07/2005 9:45:22 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
"we 'southrons' (aliens from Pluto) ALWAYS believe that we're dealing with HATEFILLED,ARROGANT, SELF-righteous, MORONS, when we deal with damnyankees."

Thanks for clearing up your viewpoint on the rest of the nation. Nobody in here would believe you actually had those sentiments. Arrogantly barfing!

4,505 posted on 04/07/2005 9:46:48 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: GOPcapitalist
"I have already done so at least three times, but since you are illiterate:"

And I am the 'illiterate' one? Try hitting the send button once, Gomer, or has the southern sun fried what remains of a brain?

Why do think you people lost the Civil War anyway? -- 'L o a d.. the ..c a n n o n, Clem '...(in slow motion)

4,506 posted on 04/07/2005 9:57:22 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: stand watie
how many MILLIONS of LIBERTY-seeking civilians would YOU be willing to KILL, this time to keep AZ,CA,CO,NM & NV from leaving the union????

As many as it took for them to realize that they have no right to rebel and commit treason.

the last go-round UNARMED civilians (like MY family for example) and HELPLESS CSA POWs were "the most favored target" of the bluebellies, especially those persons of "minority" racial/religious groups, as it was certainly easier & MUCH SAFER than fighting the valiant, ARMED, "lads in gray".

Confederate casualties of combatants outnumbered civilian casualties about 3-1. Again, your claims are not based on any facts.

4,507 posted on 04/07/2005 9:59:03 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: M. Espinola
once more (are you BRAIN DEAD????) m.eSPINola, don't twist my words.

the "rest of the nation" are NOT damnyankees. only the SELF-righteous, ARROGANT, IGNORANT HATERS & BIGOTS are DAMNyankees.

free dixie,sw

4,508 posted on 04/07/2005 10:07:27 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Heyworth
And I have two (that I know of) that fought for the Union during the Civil War, one of them getting his leg shot off.

Kudos to them for their service.

And I've seen them and all who fought for the north reviled on these threads as rapists, thieves, arsonists, mass murderers, as stooges and lackies of a tyrant who puts Stalin to shame. It's been implied that anyone who fought under the flag of the United States in that war was a fool who didn't understand the intent of the founders, that all they cared about was putting the south under their collective thumb and destroying individual liberties to create a modern proto-fascist state. That they fought to collect tariffs, that they fought because they hated southern Christian values, that they hated and feared blacks, that they just hated the south.

I condemn the actions of the leaders, those that were responsible, those that knew it wrong to wage war on civilians. Fighting against the CSA was not dishonorable for those that answered the call of their country. Many a Union man served with honour, and I respect their service.

4,509 posted on 04/07/2005 10:09:53 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: stand watie
If the rest of the nation read your comments & reacted, 97%, in your eyes, would be, in your words: "SELF-righteous, ARROGANT, IGNORANT HATERS & BIGOTS are DAMNyankees."

Knock it off & return to the real world before you go off the deep end 100%!

4,510 posted on 04/07/2005 10:13:47 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: Modernman; All
actually, the number of UNARMED, civilians & helpless CSA POWs KILLED and/or "mysteriously disappeared" was about EQUAL.

"mysteriously disappeared", as in CHILE,UKRAINE, POLAND & NICARUAGUA.

NOTE to ALL: remember the damnyankee coven of WAR CRIMINALS around lincoln, the TYRANT & shyster railroad lawyer, INVENTED the CONCENTRATION CAMP.

damnyankee "bummers" were REALLY good at burglary,rape,robbery,looting, murder & other WAR CRIMES.

free dixie,sw

4,511 posted on 04/07/2005 10:14:53 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie; Modernman
"mysteriously disappeared", as in CHILE,UKRAINE, POLAND & NICARUAGUA.

I'll bet they're all on board the U-Boat in Galveston, next to the practical cotton harvester of the 1850s and the national headquarters of the KKK.

4,512 posted on 04/07/2005 10:19:01 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: stand watie
actually, the number of UNARMED, civilians & helpless CSA POWs KILLED and/or "mysteriously disappeared" was about EQUAL.

Source, please. The only numbers I was able to come up with was the 50K range I mentioned in my post.

4,513 posted on 04/07/2005 10:31:12 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Heyworth

The nuts are really out there today :)


4,514 posted on 04/07/2005 10:40:09 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: stand watie
Some truth?
4,515 posted on 04/07/2005 10:41:45 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: M. Espinola

Walt? Wlat? Is that you Walt?


4,516 posted on 04/07/2005 11:22:59 AM PDT by 4CJ (Good-bye Henry LeeII. Rest well my FRiend. Good-bye Terri. We'll miss you both.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Awwwwwww. Did the bad man insult your pickup truck?

I doubt my pickup cares, just a good example of the crap we've been putting up with for years, while someone new on the other side gets people wiped from the FR rolls for little or nothing at all.

4,517 posted on 04/07/2005 11:38:54 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Walt? Wlat? Is that you Walt?

Nope, it's your Aunt Sally from Selma. LOL

4,518 posted on 04/07/2005 11:50:07 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: Heyworth
So I assume that you consider Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be war crimes, no?

Yes, but it is a subjective call.

From Wikipedia regarding collateral damage and war crimes:

Collateral damage is the unintended damage to civilians and non-military property during war, either accidental or as a side effect of actions that do not violate the laws of war. Although the concept goes back at least to Thomas Aquinas, some feel the phrase is used these days as a cynical euphemism for civilian casualties. The term came into popular use among the general public during the 1991 Gulf War.

Regarding the deliberate targeting of civilian populations, by military or non-military personnel, see terrorism.

In war, there are in principle legitimate military targets and illegitimate civilian targets. If civilians or their property are affected, it is nevertheless not a war crime if a) that effect could not be foreseen or b) it could not be avoided and was minor in relation to the military objective. Clearly, because whether damage is collateral or not depends on judging internal states and what counts as minor, it can be difficult to judge in individual cases whether civilian loss was a war crime or collateral damage.

The intentional bombardment of Charleston civilians was clearly avoidable and thus a war crime by the definition above. The Feds aimed at the steeple of St. Michaels Church in a civilian area of town.

The Federal commander demanded in an unsigned note sent in the middle of the night that the Confederates surrender Morris Island and Fort Sumter or he would start bombarding civilians, which he did that same night at 1:30 AM. My interpretation is that he wanted to bomb Confederate civilians and set up the circumstances so that that would happen. This senseless and vindictive bombardment continued off and on for 18 months, long after Morris Island was in Federal hands.

4,519 posted on 04/07/2005 12:13:22 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: lentulusgracchus
"He lynches people for a hobby. He has a Bondo-besmeared, rusty pickup truck with KKK stickers on the bumper (maybe a chain or two) and mangy dogs in the back. He would shoot you on sight if you durst come down here -- just like Schwerner and Goodman, right?"

Maybe selecting your friends with a tad more wisdom will avoid such vulgar human waste in the future. Could it be you actually relish such sordid associations?

The Days of Wine and Roses


4,520 posted on 04/07/2005 12:21:00 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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