I'm a liberal and I'm here to learn

[rogerv]

Hi, gang,

I was a regular contributor to the Kerry Online Forum and am now a regular contributor to the Common Ground Common Sense forum. I am a liberal, but I'll be the first to admit, I don't have all the answers. In fact, many of hte questions that matter to me probably matter to you too. I'm concerned with questions about how to tame power, whether governmental or corporate. I'm concern with the rule of law and how we can get the powerful to take it seriously. I'm concerned with the erosion of civil liberties. And yes, I am concerned about some things you may associate with liberalism--social safety nets and taking care of those who fall through the institutional cracks.

I'm here because I think agreement is overrated and that critics can be your best friends: they keep you from getting sloppy or careless. At any rate, I think there are things I can learn from you. I don't expect you are all agreed on anything--I expect there is a lot of diversity of opinion here. If you are interested in what I have said over at Common Ground Common Sense, I'm using the same handle both places, and you should feel free to come over and look around.

Anyway, I'm new here. Anybody care to give me a tour?

[houeto]

Might it may be possible that he really dropped in to listen?

I suppose it's possible.

[Mudboy Slim]

I've seen that word used before, but I hadta look it up to be sure of its exact definition...

schadenfreude \SHAHD-n-froy-duh\, noun:
A malicious satisfaction in the misfortunes of others.

And yes, I agree with ya!!

FReegards...MUD

[iconoclast]

You are either overly sensitive or kidding.

I think most know to whom I was referring.

[blackie]

You got it MUD!

The liberals are in pain and it's perfect!

Maybe they'll lose a little of their condescending, patronizing, arrogance. :)

[Zavien Doombringer]

You are right...but the constitution guarrantees those right to be able to pursue happiness. And amoung those rights is your liberty to be able to decide which career you want to have to make the money to afford your level of living. I do not make enough to afford someone else's living when they abuse those rights and take the handouts from the gov.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Dude, I am kidding...and I know to whom you were referring. :)

(eeeaaassyyy killer)

[ariamne]

Good point. I'd rather someone come on here and announce the truth about their ideology than to have to deal with the sneaky CAIR cabal, who try to lure FReepers into getting banned. I may be new to FR, but I am no novice to political forums and message boards; I have a fairly good bs radar.

[Mudboy Slim]

"Willie and the Hand Jive"
(To be sung to Eric Clapton's--"Willie and the Hand Jive")

I know a cat named Ol' Slick Willie...
Gotta phat li'l chick named BigAss Hill'ry!
She's a squawkin', dried-up, worn-out shrew...
So Slick just plays that ol' skin flute!
Look out, Country, it's an intern 'ho'...
Doin' Slick's hand jive...knees to the flo'!
Media's havin' a pretty good time...
'Cuz Left don't see where cheatin's a crime.
Hand jive, hand jive, hand jive...
Slap that monkey blind!

Slick was a young Ozark A.G....
When he ambushed poor Juanita B!!
Sex Fiend Willie gave her quite a treat...
When he raped that lady, her lip did bleed.
Quaint style, Slick's VILE, he smiles,
"Baby, get yo'self some ice!!"

Slick and Hill'ry...they having a ball...
Abusin' their Power and that ain't all,
'Cuz they committed TREASON it's plain to see...
Slick's tellin' them big lies on TeeVee.
Slick LIES, Slick SPIES, he'll resign...
And do that Prison Time.

Hey...hey-ey

Ridicule...Ridicule...RIDICULE!!! This one's gotta FUNKY BEAT...MUD

Mudboy Slim (10/29/01)

[Zavien Doombringer]

Healthcare is available for everyone, it's everyone who isn't able to afford it. If the trial lawyers would quit sueing healthcare workers and insurances, maybe, just maybe healthcare would be more affordable. The cost of Mal-practice insurance is too much for most practices, they have to close down. It isn't insurance companies fault, it isn't governments fault it is the trail lawyers who take advantage of a system. We need tort reform!

[ApesForEvolution]

Roger that, Shirley...

[iconoclast]

I'm serious about conversing. And I plan on posting here.

Good! And, welcome.

[Mudboy Slim]

"Maybe they'll lose a little of their condescending, patronizing, arrogance."

I have my doubts, my FRiend...MUD

[blackie]

Me too ~ It's just a thought. :)

[cvn76]

so roj.......

why are you here really?

if just for attention it sure looks like you got it.

it will be interesting to see if you sort thru these posts and actually participate in the discourse as i myself still cannot fathom the lack of logic which permeates the liberal culture (ie: why liberals i know live hypocritical lives etc...).

so let's hear it as i too am curious what makes you tick :)

most of your post as of this time have been "thanks" , "i have 2 kids" " i don't like abusive corporations" (you think we do?) etc....

so...........enlighten us...........or be zotted.....i mean that in a positive way :)

[ApesForEvolution]

Liberals whiz by reality check points everyday...what's new?

[iconoclast]

I actually like: Paul Gigot and David Brooks.Well, that's a start ... but you've got a long way to go! ;o)