Man held in deaths has Toledo connection (update - see reply #40)

Toledo Blade ^ | November 24, 2004 | IGNAZIO MESSINA

[TERMINATTOR]

The deer hunter accused of killing six hunters and wounding two others in the woods of northern Wisconsin is believed to have resided in the Toledo area as a youth and attended Jones Junior High School.

Chai Vang, 36, of St. Paul, is listed as a student at the South Toledo school during the 1982-1983 school year, according to Toledo Public School documents.

Willie Braggs, a social studies teacher at Jones, said he remembers Mr. Vang as a student. "He was in my class in 1982 and he seemed like a pretty good student," Mr. Braggs said. "It was a real shock [to hear of the shootings]."

A wave of Laotian refugees was brought to the Toledo area in 1979 and the early 1980s. They were resettled here with the help of church groups and other local sponsors. It was not clear yesterday when Mr. Vang's family came to Toledo or when they left.

By 1994, only about 35 Hmong families remained in the area, largely because many families moved to other cities where there were more jobs available and larger concentrations of others in their ethnic group.

About 24,000 Hmong live in St. Paul.

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[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Well they could have prevented a bloodbath..

Your crystal ball back from the shop?

[visualops]

Don't drink anything while reading one of my standard posts.

Or drink alot. When the lines of type diverge in two, it'll all make sense.

[concretebob]

If you don't get the first shot off, how do you prevent it? These people were on their property, they had no reasonable expectation of a threat. Reasonable people do not open fire on other people.

[visualops]

I've obviously not had enough, since I neglected to add C.D. in the ping.

[Baraonda]

"No , I base it off of the report, compiled with Vang's statement...."

That's exctly what I've said and why your grade-school logic is so laughable. You should pay more attention to what you write and, more importantly, what others write.

You still don't get, do you?

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

You come in here and pick a fight and are surprised when you get called on your smears, lies and innuendos?

What, in your part of the world people don't stick up for what is right? Or is it just that you don't.

[concretebob]

Yeah but WE'RE the good guys...See the white hat?

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

It should have been handled differently?

Who are you to make that judgment? You do not know the area or the people or the facts. But you feel qualified to come in here and assert that it "should have been handled differently."

Sheesh!

[concretebob]

You still don't get it. Middle of nowhere. Private property. No reasonable expectation of a threat to life.
Stranger trespassing. You ask him to leave. He refuses.
You call your friends. He waits in the stand until your friends get there, then opens fire. Kills 4, wounds 1. Call for help. He kills the responder.
Why is this ANYONE'S fault but the shooter/trespasser?

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

You are? Positive?

Because police officers and game wardens get killed every year. So once again you only imagine that they could. You don't know.

[Ladysmith]

I would be more than satisfied with the Viking Kitty wielding the ZOT-mongrifier...

[concretebob]

I see strangers in the woods around my house with weapons all the time during hunting season. I have never felt threatened. They have permmission to be there. If I saw someone without permission, I would approach and ask for his permission slip. Thats because we're civilized.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Let's not bring race into it please.

People can claim to be anything on a Internet forum.

[concretebob]

and it WAS NOT and SKS, it was a Saiga, a cheap knock-off of an AK47

[Ladysmith]

Credibility matters. Vang has next to no credibility.