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Man held in deaths has Toledo connection (update - see reply #40)
Toledo Blade ^ | November 24, 2004 | IGNAZIO MESSINA

Posted on 11/26/2004 3:02:40 PM PST by TERMINATTOR

Edited on 11/26/2004 5:41:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The deer hunter accused of killing six hunters and wounding two others in the woods of northern Wisconsin is believed to have resided in the Toledo area as a youth and attended Jones Junior High School.

Chai Vang, 36, of St. Paul, is listed as a student at the South Toledo school during the 1982-1983 school year, according to Toledo Public School documents.

Willie Braggs, a social studies teacher at Jones, said he remembers Mr. Vang as a student. "He was in my class in 1982 and he seemed like a pretty good student," Mr. Braggs said. "It was a real shock [to hear of the shootings]."

A wave of Laotian refugees was brought to the Toledo area in 1979 and the early 1980s. They were resettled here with the help of church groups and other local sponsors. It was not clear yesterday when Mr. Vang's family came to Toledo or when they left.

By 1994, only about 35 Hmong families remained in the area, largely because many families moved to other cities where there were more jobs available and larger concentrations of others in their ethnic group.

About 24,000 Hmong live in St. Paul.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; diversity; imigrant; laotianrefugees; localsponsors; psychoimigrant; realshock; resettled; toledoblade; tolerance; vang; wihunters; wisconsin
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To: Credo Deus
Well, he called told them that he had a trespasser,

And that the trespasser had been told to leave and he was staying to make sure he went. Don't forget that part. They had, at that point, every reason to believe that when they got there they would find Wilkers by himself, the trespasser having already left.

when they left the cabin they are now a posse on a mission of removing a subject from said property,

No, they are not. You continue to imagine things that are not there. There is nothing in the statement that says that. It says that they went to join Wilkers but it does not give a reason, for all you know they were going to see if any damage had been done to the tree stand a far more likely possibility then your wild imaginings.

582 posted on 11/27/2004 3:11:46 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation.)
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To: Credo Deus

"In a situation like this, you never know what kind of nut job your dealing with."

Your previous statements imply that the hunters should've planned for a "worst-case scenario." Following that logic, shouldn't the police be called every time someone is fired?


585 posted on 11/27/2004 3:17:28 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Credo Deus
Vang isn't that smart.. come on..

How do you know? What do you base that on?

586 posted on 11/27/2004 3:17:32 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Credo Deus

Not the cops, huh?


588 posted on 11/27/2004 3:19:58 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Credo Deus

Not the cops, huh?


589 posted on 11/27/2004 3:20:30 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Credo Deus

All he had to do is get off private property --- and all would be fine. Why would 8 people have to be armed to ask a man to leave private property? That would actually be more threatening having 8 armed people tell you to stop trespassing --- it certainly looks that by being unarmed, they were actually trying not to seem threatening.


591 posted on 11/27/2004 3:21:22 PM PST by FITZ
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To: concretebob
Road Repair..thats where they turn the potholes upside down, right?

Good one, new to me. I once saw a sink hole (pot hole on steroids!) swallow a car some thirty feet deep on US 2 in da UP. Lots of iron mines up there and some of the stopes got real close to the surface. Well, given enough time, even rock gets tired! This poor lady was zipping along about 10:00 pm when the roof fell in.

Damn, don't you just hate it when that happens.

Regards,
GtG

592 posted on 11/27/2004 3:21:43 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Credo Deus
Rushed? Where does it say they rushed? Are you imagining things again?

There were five BTW. Unarmed. Walking to meet up with their friend. Who they expected, more then likely, to find alone.

As to inspecting the deer stand, that would have been a priority. Because you climb up in the stand well before dawn. And if the stand gives way you can easily fall to your death.

593 posted on 11/27/2004 3:22:41 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation.)
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To: Credo Deus

Not cops, necessarily, but handy. What about places without security? Should they call the cops when terminating an employee?


596 posted on 11/27/2004 3:26:18 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I once saw a sinkhole swallow a parking lot, and kill two people. (Not actually witnessed it, just the aftermath) Also took down the front half of a Hyatt Hotel. Happened all at once. 80 feet deep 150 feet long and 75 feet wide


598 posted on 11/27/2004 3:29:50 PM PST by concretebob (A Nation ignorant of its past, is a Nation ripe for deception and manipulation)
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To: Credo Deus

"..then someone opened there pie hole and yelled that they called the cops, that was a real slick move..."

See, there you go again! You're stating that what someone said precipitated this incident. That implies fault and you are laying blame for this incident at the feet of the victims and that is WRONG!

And you've got an inflammatory way with words.


600 posted on 11/27/2004 3:31:35 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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