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Man held in deaths has Toledo connection (update - see reply #40)
Toledo Blade ^
| November 24, 2004
| IGNAZIO MESSINA
Posted on 11/26/2004 3:02:40 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
Edited on 11/26/2004 5:41:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator.
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Comment #441 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus
And let someone sit on their land unchallenged. Ok where is you address. I want to come sit in you living room. And watch you sit there as I tear it up and watch you do nothing and wait for the cops to arrive. Then I will kick you dog, and watch you do nothing till the cops arrive.... An Armed person on my property with out my consent wheather they are acting threating or not poses a threat. As A property owner I have the right and obligation to challenge that persons presence. Just like you would not let me sit in you living room unchalleged I would not let someone squat on my property unchallenged just like these hunters. So get of the Blame the victims kick.
442
posted on
11/27/2004 7:50:25 AM PST
by
Americanwolf
(www.geocities.com/arizonapatriots/ArizonaPatriots.html.. Serving those who serve us.)
Comment #443 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus
Learning experience, call the police...
the death of six innocent people is a "learning experience"? Real nice. As has been explained to you over and over you cannot wait on the police in this area, the real answer is to show up armed and shot the SOB before he kills everybody.
444
posted on
11/27/2004 7:54:01 AM PST
by
Dr Snide
(vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
Comment #445 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus
You are clueless aren't you. In regards to challenging someone I am refering to asking them why they are there and then asking them to leave. Kind like a guard at a military base challenges anyone who tries to enter without authorization. What effect would telling Vang that you are going to call the cops have? I don't think that would have motivated him to move. And the one fact that seems to escape you on this is, After he was asked to leave he fired on these people unprevoked according to police records. No matter what Vang committed several criminal acts. The hunters that were killed did not. They were only concerned about protecting their property.
446
posted on
11/27/2004 7:59:46 AM PST
by
Americanwolf
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To: Credo Deus; Happy2BMe; JustAmy
..... as for Brokaw I'm glad he is retiring, when are Jennings and Koppel going to leave? Soon, I hope.
Well, I'm headin' out for the day very shortly.
See ya'll manana! :^D
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Oh, Happy: Keep me up on the Ukraine Election stuff.
447
posted on
11/27/2004 8:02:33 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
Comment #448 Removed by Moderator
To: MeekOneGOP
Have the wife make you some of that soup!
449
posted on
11/27/2004 8:04:16 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
To: Happy2BMe
450
posted on
11/27/2004 8:06:47 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
To: Credo Deus
lets get the timeline down hereL:
Vang (a man with a history of waving a gun at people and threatening to kill them and of trespassing while hunting) goes on to obvious private property and takes someone's obvious private deer stand. The owner of that property goes and tells Vang to leave. Vang become so irate the owners calls others in his hunting party to come. Mr. Vang claims that the is harassed including racial slurs but he is the only one to so and since he is a confessed mass murder his credibility may be suspect. Because he is so irate the victims begin to call the police at which point Vang begins to walk away, changes his mind, removes the scope from his rife, and begins blowing people away including shooting unarmed people in the back. He then puts on camo and ambushes the third group before running away. And your take on this is the people who got killed should have called the cops. I give up.
451
posted on
11/27/2004 8:08:24 AM PST
by
Dr Snide
(vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
To: Americanwolf
I've had enough of this thread...
To: Credo Deus
and let them have free reign of you property? Ok once again i'll go back to my previous statement. Let me squat on your land unchallenged. while you say nothing and go call the cops. If you are willing to allow all of your personal security to be handled by the police without challenging a possible immediate threat then you are either very naive or have a lot of faith in you fellow man.
453
posted on
11/27/2004 8:11:01 AM PST
by
Americanwolf
(www.geocities.com/arizonapatriots/ArizonaPatriots.html.. Serving those who serve us.)
To: Happy2BMe
Thanks! I saved that recipe. See ya manana .....
454
posted on
11/27/2004 8:12:41 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
To: Tijeras_Slim
yeah it is getting pretty seabiscuity here.
455
posted on
11/27/2004 8:15:12 AM PST
by
Americanwolf
(www.geocities.com/arizonapatriots/ArizonaPatriots.html.. Serving those who serve us.)
To: Credo Deus
Not Baiting, you implied that the victims could do more...I don't think they had much chance to react.
Besides, you have been grilled enough.
456
posted on
11/27/2004 8:15:17 AM PST
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
Comment #457 Removed by Moderator
Comment #458 Removed by Moderator
To: Credo Deus; Darksheare
When you have an intruder on your property, you are required to ask the individual to leave first. Why on earth would you need to police to do that? After the Perp alluded to look like he was leaving is when he opened fire. Did it occur to the victims they needed the local authorities at that time? NO!..
If someone entered my house, I am required to tell the person to leave, if he does not, then I can take measures to remove perp, even shooting him if my life is threatened.
You sound like the kid on the block that always ran to mommy when anything seemed dangerous to you.
459
posted on
11/27/2004 8:23:52 AM PST
by
Zavien Doombringer
(Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
To: Credo Deus
It is if it is your property. YOU have rights to protect yourself on your property.
460
posted on
11/27/2004 8:25:05 AM PST
by
Zavien Doombringer
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