DUmmies React to Bush's re-Election

Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-04 03:13 AM Original message To all the Seniors who voted for Bush

Social Security benefits getting cut so that we can dump it into the stock market?

liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-04 02:45 AM Original message I Trust JOHN KERRY

Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 02:49 AM by liberalpragmatist Look, guys. I realize that people's emotions are running pretty high right now. Of course people are upset. I am too. I expect to get flamed, but I don't care.

John Kerry is an honorable, decent, and great man. I had so much hope in him and all day today I've been thinking about what we've lost - I honestly believe John Kerry is one of the best Presidents the United States will never have. It's horribly disheartening.

Now I see half of DU slandering the guy and turning their back on him? Slandering him so viciously? Attacking him as spineless? You guys, the writing was on the wall. There was mathematically no way for him to reach victory. That was obvious. Now, there may have been some irregularities, but there's no way to prove that.

Do you really think John Kerry gave up lightly? The guy is truly a fighter. He has wanted to be President his whole life! WHY the hell would he give up his lifelong dream unless he absolutely had to?! This man was born to be President. Some sympathy for him please. He's obviously personally devastated. Could you not see the sadness in his demeanor during his concession speech? What would he give up unless he had to?

Some of you guys say he caved in for his own personal gain. Uh - WHAT personal gain? Don't you realize that this was everything Kerry wanted? He's lost the dream of his life. What favors could he possibly be doing to himself?

The man is obviously sad. I'm sure he feels 100 times sadder and more heartbroken then any of us! He did not make this decision lightly, and he's a patriot first and foremost. If there was no mathematical possibility of him winning, why drag this out into endless legal battles over votes that aren't going to affect the outcome?

I for one will always remember John Kerry. Obviously in hindsight some mistakes were made. But the campaign was made in utter good faith. He gave it his all and he did us proud. We made clear progress on important issues like national security - the unfortunate thing was we lost despite that because we didn't foresee the composition of the electorate. That's not Kerry's fault - that's a fault of the left as a whole. Kerry did the best he could. He very nearly beat a sitting president with high personal approval ratings in wartime.

And I'm not going to let my personal heartbreak with this loss turn my back and betray someone who fought so hard and so sincerely for us.

Hell....I was still in the galley rowing the motherfucker, when I looked up because the drums stopped. To my suprise the Captain, First Mate, and half the crew were gone.

Fuck it...I'm gonna keep on rowing. Kerry can get back in the boat if he wants to, but I won't trust him as my Captain again.

goodboy (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-04 03:27 AM Original message Could Kerry still become President? Say he wins Ohio after votes from

absentee ballots/provisional ballots are counted. As long as it's before Jan 20th, right?

mermaid (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-04-04 04:01 AM
Original message
Please, I Need Help

Don't hate me. don't tear into me. I am very scared, and feel very alone and frightened right now, becuase the fascists have gained control of this country for probably the forseeable future, and now, it look slike it is only going to get worse.

I gave my blood, my sweat, my tears, my heart, my sould, my money, my time and my effort into this election, and I got zip back for it. The asshole won. And it scares me.

I'm transgender. And don't try to tell me there are not fundamentalist zealots in this Administration that WOULDN'T build concentration camps, or just summarily execute all people like me...along with all GLB people...AND FEEL RIGHTEOUS ABOUT IT!

They would feel no remose, no shame, and no guilt for atrocities committed against enemies of their own choosing, because those people, with that mentality, consider people like me to be somehow less than human. They have that invader mentality. They truly feel no remorse or shame, or guilt for any atrocities committed against those they consider "sun-human" (i.e. all enemies of their choosing.)

The problem is...I don't feel like there are enough people in this country, with enough backbone to stand up and say NO to these people. to say, No you cannot do that to those people, it is NOT right!! I think most people would fear speaking out, for fear that my fate would become theirs...and so they would turn a blind eye to ANYTHING that was done to me...and a deaf ear to my screams of agony at whatever atrocities were committed against me.

I truly fear this. This isn't the 1950's and 1960's anymore. Back then, the African-Americans were the targets. People stood up and said NO...and their lot in life got better. I don't feel there are enough people left who are willing, anymore, to satnd up and say NO...now that it is me, and my GLBT brothers and sisters who are the target.

Which is why I say, "Give Me Some Hope, Or Give Me Some Rope!"
I can't go on feeling this way...fearing what may be done to me by zealots in our government who think they can get away with it...and fearing that not enough of my countrymen/women will stand up and say NO...to stop them from doing it.

I'm terribly scared for my future. I need hope. Lots of it. Please, please, please...help me. And please, Mods, don't delete this like you did to my last thread like this. No, I'm not going to actually do anything drastic here, don't get that idea (I suspect THAT is why the last thread got killed) I was coming apart worse when I wrote the first one...and was bone-weary from being up till late hours, etc. I hope this is more composed, and you take the time to read it and understand my fears...and that you can give me some badly needed hope.

I feel like I now have nothing left to live for...that I'm already dead. Because they are coming for me...the second they think they can get away with it, they are coming. what makes any of you believe that these people, who have sworn themselves enemies of people like me...will stop at a certain level of de-humanization...that they will stop with banning gay marriage...that they won't go further and further and further? Why not? No one in this country is left who has enough spine to say NO! At least that is how I see it.

so I need some folks out there to prove me wrong. I need to see some of those strong voices...and to hear that you won't let them do those things to me.

I'm so terrfied that we are becoming The Fourth Reich...and that this time, it'll be GLBT people instead of Jews and Gypsies.

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