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Christopher Reeve, Man of SteelFWIW
vanity | October 11, 2004 | self

Posted on 10/11/2004 2:06:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

I preface this short vanity by saying I am pro-life, anti-abortion, anti-stem cell playing-God...

I have a friend who worked on Christopher Reeve's latest TV movie which Reeve just finished directing.

Movie sets are generally bedlam, filled with chaos, complaints, back-stabbing and petty irritations.

My friend said this production was different -- a life-changing experience for everyone involved with it.

The direction on the set was altered to accommodate Reeve's limitations which, according to my friend, were unimaginable. Reeve had to show up before dawn hours ahead of schedule in order to prepare for the rigors of production. He was constantly hooked up to machines. He could move nothing but his facial muscles. He was never alone, yet he was all alone.

Throughout the weeks, Reeve was steady, focused and serene. No one argued about craft services or late entrances or slow lighting. Everyone pitched in and did more than their share -- willingly, gratefully, aware of the tremendous effort Reeve was making and of his constant, unfathomable suffering.

My friend is not a particularly religious man, but he said he felt blessed and humbled to witness Christopher Reeve's profound courage and grace.

His pain is ended; he's strong and whole now. May God comfort those who loved him.


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To: ClintonBeGone
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, I won't."

Well then you're not a Christian. Christians believe in compassion, forgiveness, mercy just as much as truth and justice.
201 posted on 10/11/2004 4:06:06 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thank you Dr. for this very nice tribute to a very brave man who suffered so much. I do pray that he is whole now and at peace. What a lovely story you told us about his final days.
RIP Chris, and may God comfort his loved ones.


202 posted on 10/11/2004 4:06:55 PM PDT by ladyinred (The simple lie always conquers the more complex truth. (propaganda))
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To: F16Fighter
Are the "graves" of Saddam's two sons sacred as well?

Wow, you're sick.

Whereas most people on this board feel compassion for ANYONE who's passed on and their loved ones, you are wrong to demand respect from everyone for this man.

How about some class and courtesy? I know, I'm expecting way too much from this place anymore.
203 posted on 10/11/2004 4:07:28 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
Another (supposedly) Christian freeper who claims to have God's on his speed dial. When will y'all hook me up with His private number because I've been praying to Him (and sometimes seeing his answers in my life's work) for years now and I've never even gotten ONE direct and immediate answer. The way you talk, you can not only see the future and talk to the Burning Bush yourself, but you're also the Shadow. Who "Know what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"

Wait, don't you remember when Jesus spit on Lazarus's grave?

Or that verse that goes, Love your friends and kill your enemies?

That's cuz you're not a reeeeeaal Christian.
204 posted on 10/11/2004 4:10:58 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: asgardshill

Awesome!!!!


205 posted on 10/11/2004 4:11:47 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: P-Marlowe
I join countless Americans with disabilities in deploring the "harvesting" of human life; I find it shameful that some of my associates with disabilities are using their physical impairment as a plea to promote research cloning, and I am offended that words like "helpless victim" and "being trapped in a useless body" are used to sway the sympathies of legislators.

Amen.

IMO many people out there were emotionally backmailed by Reeve's plight, thus open to making Dr. Frankenstein the Surgeon General.

206 posted on 10/11/2004 4:12:29 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Conservative til I die
Comparing Reeve to Hitler.

No, read the context. I was comparing you, a Reeve defender, to Hitler.

207 posted on 10/11/2004 4:13:26 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
...Freepers are better than that...etc?

You haven't been here long, have you?

Freepers can say some seriously vile stuff. There are some real hateful bastards on this site.

All I have to say to them is, don't let the door hit you on the way out of the GOP.
208 posted on 10/11/2004 4:13:48 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ClintonBeGone
The only thing the two have in common is the first letter of the last name. Ronald Reagan was a prince of life. I can't say the same for the other

So basically that grants you the right to act like a classless, unChristian bum?

I disagree.
209 posted on 10/11/2004 4:15:19 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
A poster made the accusation of the "desecration of graves" with respect to posters NOT treating the news of Reeve with the reverence they demand.

Now if you want to take things out of context, that YOUR prerogative AND problem.

"How about some class and courtesy? I know, I'm expecting way too much from this place anymore."

You mean like the "class and courtesy" you just gave me??

Hypocrite.

210 posted on 10/11/2004 4:16:47 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: SupplySider
I may disagree with his ideas, but I think he was a big man.

Like all of us, Reeve was a flawed and contradictory man. In some ways we bring out the best in us, some ways the worst.
211 posted on 10/11/2004 4:17:25 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ClintonBeGone
Absolutely. Who I find even more repulsive than the self-serving promotors who seek to be made whole are their enablers. Many of them who have shown up today.

Sad that you equate asking people to show some class and decency to "enabling".
212 posted on 10/11/2004 4:18:32 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: BibChr
SO then what is your agenda in feeling the need to come on here and say (and I paraphrase) Reeve is probably in hell. Do you really think it adds anything to the conversation? Are you trying to use it as a springboard to prostelytize?

That's my problem with certain Christians that got nothing nice to say, but hooo boy, when hell is brought into the converation, now they're cooking.
213 posted on 10/11/2004 4:20:40 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ClintonBeGone
No, read the context. I was comparing you, a Reeve defender, to Hitler.

Wow! You're really friggin' sick!

Please stay away from me, you whacko.

Thanks.
214 posted on 10/11/2004 4:22:34 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

You do seem to have an issue with Jesus, I gather; though you blame it on Christians.

I honestly believe that if you read my posts in this thread, any honest question you have will be answered. It's all on the table.

Dan


215 posted on 10/11/2004 4:23:27 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Eddie Haskell

Haven't read the entire thread, so perhaps others have answered this, but if not the lifespan is about 7 years according to one of Chris's doctors I saw interviewed today.


216 posted on 10/11/2004 4:24:11 PM PDT by ladyinred (The simple lie always conquers the more complex truth. (propaganda))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks for your post. I am as prolife as they come, and I felt greatly saddened to learn the news of Reeve's death this morning. Leaving aside Reeve's views on ESC (which I vehemently disagree with) and the Democrats' exploitation of his death, I have to say I truly admired his remarkable courage over the past 9 years.

If you think about it, Reeve's achievement of making something positive in the wake of his tragedy did a great deal for the prolife movement, even if he didn't intend it that way. He showed millions of Americans that even the most severely disabled can contribute and lead worthwhile lives. Reeve's life should bolster the efforts of those who belong to such groups as Not Dead Yet! He was living proof that being a whole human being isn't just a matter of the body.

I can even understand his grasping at the straw of ESC to help find a cure for his condition, though I deeply disagree with his advocacy for it. Let the Democrats try to exploit his death -- I think voters will see it for what it is.

We can and should fight the pro-ESC movement tooth and nail, but let's also honor what Reeve did to uphold dignity and respect for the disabled. RIP Christopher Reeve.


217 posted on 10/11/2004 4:25:21 PM PDT by strictlyaminorleaguer
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Absolutely beautiful post -- you hit the nail on the head. Thank you.


218 posted on 10/11/2004 4:28:31 PM PDT by strictlyaminorleaguer
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To: xzins; Alex Murphy; BibChr
My sense is that your theology says any individual's coming to faith has nothing to do with the circumstances in which they find themselves.

"Circumstances" are given by God, x. Like everything else.

And I stand by my observation that "Perhaps Christopher Reeve was meant to teach us just how stubborn and fallen mankind really is. How any person could suffer like he suffered and NOT come to faith is surely an astounding lesson in hubris."

Hubris, as in the First Commandment, was the first and greatest sin in Eden ("ye shall be as gods") and one we carry still.

I like what Anglican Calvinist Richard Sibbes wrote four centuries ago.

"This is a life of faith, for God will try the truth of our faith, so that the world may see that God has such servants as will depend upon His bare word."

So here's what I finally take from Christopher Reeve's life and death. If a man of no faith can endure such relentless agony, how can I complain? I have His bare word.

219 posted on 10/11/2004 4:34:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: strictlyaminorleaguer
Great post. I certainly should have added your important insights.

If you think about it, Reeve's achievement of making something positive in the wake of his tragedy did a great deal for the prolife movement, even if he didn't intend it that way. He showed millions of Americans that even the most severely disabled can contribute and lead worthwhile lives.

I was told the same thing a long time ago by a man who had spent his life in a wheelchair. He despised the liberals who pushed euthanasia as a remedy for his "condition."

I never made the arrogant mistake again of spouting "I wouldn't want to live if I was in a wheelchair."

Life is not our own to give or take. Thank God.

220 posted on 10/11/2004 4:51:13 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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