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Obama, The Carpetbagging Senator from Illinois
One small Voice

Posted on 09/13/2004 12:13:40 PM PDT by 1smallVoice

I have heard Alan Keyes called a carpetbagger because he is from Maryland. But I have not heard Obama called a carpet bagger and this confuses me. Obama was not born in Illinois, he was born in Hawaii. I bet Alan Keyes was born closer to Illinois.

Obama's mother was a white woman from Kansas, his father was African, Keyes' roots lie in slaves brought here from Africa, sold into slavery by Obama's ancestors, yet Obama better represents Illinois blacks.

Obama was raised a Muslim like his father and his step father who moved him it Indonesia where he was raised as a Muslim. Keyes is a Catholic. Obama claims to be Christian, a member of the United Church of Christ, check it out, they are not Baptists.

Obama went to school on the East Coast and returned to Illinois to begin his political career in Chicago in the 1990's. He is a teacher. He worked to get Bill Clinton elected. They say Illinois is a liberal state and Kerry will win here.

I do not know but from where I sit Obama is the carpetbagger, not Alan Keyes.


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To: 1smallVoice
I can live with that and when I see God face to face explain why I voted for a carpetbagger who opposed killing babies. Explain to me again why I am wrong.

Succinct and exactly right.

I too, am an Illinois voter and one question I won't have to answer when I meet my Maker is: "Why did you help elect someone who was in favor of killing innocents?"

81 posted on 09/13/2004 2:21:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

I've tried the dictionary at ajeeb.com, and come up with nothing. I'm not convinced it means anything.


82 posted on 09/13/2004 2:21:29 PM PDT by Melas
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To: 1smallVoice; sinkspur; Artemis Webb; Melas
The truth is that a man raised in Hawaii and indonesia and raised as a Muslim who lives in Chicago and teaches Law wants to represent Illinois voters in the Senate as a Democrat.

SFW?

Unless the Senate, House and Presidency become democrat majorities, then a Republican from Maryland will better represent Illinois voters.

In actuality, the candidate who gets the most votes cast in Illinois on November 2nd is the one who is better-qualified to represent Illinois voters.

It's up to Alan Keyes to make the case to Illinois voters...and he's done an execrable job of making that case.

Let us speak the truth, Obama is no Christian, he does not represent me.

Excuse me, but would you mind displaying your credentials for determining Obama's Christianity? Did Torquemada appear to you in a vision and confer the title of Grand Inquisitor upon you?

83 posted on 09/13/2004 2:21:54 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Melas

You want to discuss voting records? People will not listen to this, they react to things like a person who hides things like their drug addiction and where they were raised and how they were raised. People relate to these things, not voting records, look at the presidentail race, what are people looking at, not Kerry's voting record.


84 posted on 09/13/2004 2:22:52 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: 1smallVoice

While some of the arguments made here might have some small use when trying to sway some ignorant Obama supporter on the streets of Chicago, I don't think talking about this subject is particularly useful just now to our efforts to elect Alan to the Senate.


85 posted on 09/13/2004 2:23:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Abortion: The American Holocaust.)
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To: Artemis Webb

by saying that you have proven that you are the one who is racist.. you and sinkspur are the ones crying "race card", why don't you two go work for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton?

Obama's race matters when he uses it to dupe his own and others... and his religion matters when he is a member of a religion responsible for oppression and death all over the world...


86 posted on 09/13/2004 2:24:07 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Poohbah

Amennnnnn Brother!!!!!!!!!!!


87 posted on 09/13/2004 2:24:21 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Melas

Yeesh, no wonder he's called the rising star of the Democrats.


88 posted on 09/13/2004 2:24:37 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: 1smallVoice
You're damned skippy I want to discuss voting records. Quite simply, I find your tactics extremely offensive. I originally thought you just didn't know any better, and were writing from ignorance. Now I'm starting to realize that you know your arguments are false, but just don't care as long as they strike the proper emotional chord.

Sorry, I could never support that. My parents, may they rest in peace, raised me better than that.

89 posted on 09/13/2004 2:25:24 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

It means 'man who loves goats' in Swazi.


90 posted on 09/13/2004 2:25:43 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: Awestruck
"you and sinkspur are the ones crying "race card""

I will issue you an apology if you find the phrase "race card" in my post. Otherwise you owe me one.

91 posted on 09/13/2004 2:26:36 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: sinkspur
Does Obama want to kill Americans?

As a matter of fact he does. The most innocent among us.

92 posted on 09/13/2004 2:26:40 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: Poohbah

No, Einstein, check out the United Church of Christ or read previous posts.


93 posted on 09/13/2004 2:27:06 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: Awestruck
Obama's race matters when he uses it to dupe his own and others

You have a very low opinion of the intelligence of blacks, don't you?

and his religion matters when he is a member of a religion responsible for oppression and death all over the world...

The Church of Christ kills and oppresses people, all over the world?

I need to read the papers.

94 posted on 09/13/2004 2:29:18 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Artemis Webb

you are the one, were you not who said 'it's a black thing, you wouldn't understand'...if that's not playing the race card I don't know what is.. If you two are so against everything we stand for here on FR, then why not go troll at DU, where they would treat you like tokens.


95 posted on 09/13/2004 2:29:32 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: 1smallVoice
No, Einstein, check out the United Church of Christ or read previous posts.

I've read them. Color me unconvinced.

96 posted on 09/13/2004 2:29:52 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: 1smallVoice
People will not listen to this, they react to things like a person who hides things like their drug addiction and where they were raised and how they were raised.

How's he hiding them? You know about them.

99 posted on 09/13/2004 2:30:40 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Poohbah; 1smallVoice; Awestruck
In actuality, the candidate who gets the most votes cast in Illinois on November 2nd is the one who is better-qualified to represent Illinois voters.

B.S. By that line of absurd reasoning Saddam Hussein was "better qualified" to represent Iraq.

Excuse me, but would you mind displaying your credentials for determining Obama's Christianity?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or theologian to pick up the Bible and read the criteria, and then do our best to ascertain whether certain people oppose or fail to meet the criteria. BTW, the Bible actually instructs us to do just that.

100 posted on 09/13/2004 2:30:48 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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