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THE BATTLE OF ATLANTA: Civilians were Sherman's targets
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 07/16/04 | JOHN A. TURES

Posted on 07/18/2004 8:40:59 PM PDT by canalabamian

Not only was William Tecumseh Sherman guilty of many of the crimes that some apologists portray as "tall tales," but also his specter seems to haunt the scandal-ridden halls of the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

Sherman had a relatively poor record battling armies. His lack of preparation nearly destroyed Union forces at Shiloh. He was repulsed at Chickasaw Bluffs, losing an early opportunity to capture Vicksburg, Miss. The result was a bloody campaign that dragged on for months. He was blocked by Gen. Pat Cleburne at the Battle of Chattanooga and needed to be bailed out by Gen. George Thomas' Army of the Cumberland. His troops were crushed by rebel forces in the Battle of Kennesaw Mountain.

But Sherman knew how to make war against civilians. After the capture of Atlanta, he engaged in policies similar to ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia by expelling citizens from their homes. "You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war," he told the fleeing population. Today, Slobodan Milosevic is on trial for similar actions in Kosovo.

An article on Sherman in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution last spring asserted that Sherman attacked acceptable military targets "by the standards of war at the time." This seems to assume that human rights were invented with the creation of the United Nations. But Gen. Grant did not burn Virginia to the ground. Gen. Lee did not burn Maryland or Pennsylvania when he invaded. Both sought to destroy each other's armies instead of making war against women and children, as Sherman did.

After promising to "make Georgia . . . howl," Sherman continued such policies in the Carolinas. Not only did he preside over the burning of Columbia, but he also executed several prisoners of war in retaliation for the ambush of one of his notorious foraging parties. While Andersonville's camp commander, Henry Wirz, was found guilty of conspiracy to impair the health and destroy the life of prisoners and executed, nothing like that happened to Sherman.

According to an article by Maj. William W. Bennett, Special Forces, U.S. Army, Sherman turned his attention to a new soft target after the Civil War: Native Americans. Rather than engage Indian fighters, Sherman again preferred a strategy of killing noncombatants. After an ambush of a military detachment by Red Cloud's tribe, Sherman said, "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children."

Bennett notes that Sherman carried out his campaign with brutal efficiency. On the banks of the Washita River, Gen. George Armstrong Custer massacred a village of the friendly Cheyenne Chief Black Kettle, who had located to a reservation. Sherman was quoted as saying, "The more we can kill this year, the less will have to be killed the next war, for the more I see of these Indians, the more convinced I am that they all have to be killed or maintained as a species of paupers. Their attempts at civilization are simply ridiculous."

Such slaughter was backed by the extermination of the buffalo as a means of depriving the men, women and children with a source of food. Many Native Americans not killed by Sherman's troopers were forced onto reservations or exiled to Florida to face swamps and disease.

Now we have learned about the abuse of prisoners in Iraq. Such events may seem unrelated, were it not for reports that Sherman's policies are still taught to West Point cadets as an example of how to break an enemy's will to fight.

Are we therefore shocked by the acts of barbarity against Iraqi detainees? As long as we honor Sherman, teach his tactics and revise history to excuse his actions, we can expect more examples of torture and savagery against noncombatants we encounter in other countries.

John Tures is an assistant professor of political science at LaGrange College who was born in Wisconsin, opposes the 1956 Georgia flag and still has a low opinion of Sherman.


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To: Mudboy Slim
maybe he/she/it is just prejudiced against me????

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761 posted on 08/02/2004 6:08:18 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Sherman was a War Criminal and a Mass-Murderer...MUD

Yes he was. FYI, it's spelled "Sherman [*SPIT*]". Thank you ;o)

762 posted on 08/02/2004 6:13:01 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
!!!!!!

btw, have you SEEN the pix of a friend of mine "watering his grave"????

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763 posted on 08/02/2004 6:22:01 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
"it's spelled "Sherman [*SPIT*]".

My bad...I'm surprised my spell-checker missed that...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

764 posted on 08/02/2004 6:31:08 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: stand watie
btw, have you SEEN the pix of a friend of mine "watering his grave"????

Not sure if I have, but if I drank I'd have one for him, except I'd pass it though my kidneys first ;o)

765 posted on 08/02/2004 6:34:33 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: Mudboy Slim

"What?! Badeye don't like Suth'nuhs?! Sounds kinda prejudiced to me...MUD"

My mothers name is Dixie Sue. Do the math....


766 posted on 08/02/2004 6:40:35 AM PDT by Badeye ("If you Don't Vote, YOU are the PROBLEM")
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To: stand watie; The Scourge of Yazid; King Prout

I just stand back and watch the man fillet scalawags and friends of Kerry


767 posted on 08/02/2004 7:39:43 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
I just stand back and watch the man fillet scalawags and friends of Kerry

Ain't life grand?! ;o)

768 posted on 08/02/2004 7:42:35 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
you have the EXACTLY CORRECT notion.

it took a 6-pack of BUD to do a proper watering!

free dixie,sw

769 posted on 08/02/2004 8:37:02 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
you have the EXACTLY CORRECT notion.

it took a 6-pack of BUD to do a proper watering!

free dixie,sw

770 posted on 08/02/2004 8:37:19 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices

!!!!!!!!


771 posted on 08/02/2004 8:37:48 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: cyborg

!!!!!!!!


772 posted on 08/02/2004 8:38:09 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Mudboy Slim
evidently he/she/it thanks that having a mother named DIXIE SUE "gets one off easy" when it comes to being a damnedyankee/LIB/fool/moron, etc,etc,etc.

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773 posted on 08/02/2004 8:40:21 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
it took a 6-pack of BUD to do a proper watering!

;o)

774 posted on 08/02/2004 8:53:41 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: Badeye

"Now, do us both a favor and let it go."

Thanks for the invitation, but no thanks. IF you continue to live in your construct that war atrocities against the South do not matter because of the history of the association of the South with slavery, then you should benefit from a another perspective.

Slavery in the North

"Northern slavery grew out of the paradox the new continent presented to its European masters. So much land was available, so cheaply, that no one was willing to come to America and sign on to work as a laborer. The dream that drew Europeans across the Atlantic was owning acres of land or making a fortune in a trade or a craft. It was an attainable dream. In the 1680s a landless Welsh peasant from the mountains of Montgomeryshire could bring his whole family to Pennsylvania for £10 and acquire 250 acres for another £5; placing just one son in a trade in Britain would have cost the family £7.

Yet workers were needed in the new continent to clear the land, work the soil, build the towns. Because of this acute labor shortage, all the American colonies turned to compulsory labor. In New Netherland, in the 1640s, a free European worker could be hired for 280 guilders a year, plus food and lodging. In the same time and place, experienced African slaves from the West Indies could be bought outright, for life, for 300 guilders.

“To claim that the colonies would not have survived without slaves would be a distortion," historian Edgar McManus writes, "but there can be no doubt that the development was significantly speeded by their labor. They provided the basic working force that transformed shaky outposts of empire into areas of permanent settlement.”[1] Or, to consider the situation from a broad view of the entire New World, “... export agriculture and effective colonization would not have occurred on the scale it did if enslaved Africans had not been brought to the New World. Except for precious metals, almost all major American exports to Europe were produced by Africans.”[2]

Early in the 17th century, black slave status in the British Americas was not quite absolute bondage. It was a nebulous condition similar to that of indentured servants. Some Africans brought to America were regarded as "servants" eligible for freedom a certain number of years. Slavery had been on the decline in England, and in most of Europe generally, since the Middle Ages. That may be why the legal definition of slavery as perpetual servitude for blacks and their children was not immediately established in the New World colonies. The first official legal recognition of chattel slavery as a legal institution in British North America was in Massachusetts, in 1641, with the “Body of Liberties.” Slavery was legalized in New Plymouth and Connecticut when it was incorporated into the Articles of the New England Confederation (1643). Rhode Island enacted a similar law in 1652. That means New England had formal, legal slavery a full generation before it was established in the South. Not until 1664 did Maryland declare that all blacks held in the colony, and all those imported in the future, would serve for life, as would their offspring. Virginia followed suit by the end of the decade. New York and New Jersey acquired legal slavery when they passed to English control in the 1660s. Pennsylvania, founded only in 1682, followed in 1700, with a law for regulation of servants and slaves.

Roughly speaking, slavery in the North can be divided into two regions. New England slaves numbered only about 1,000 in 1708, but that rose to more than 5,000 in 1730 and about 13,000 by 1750. New England also was the center of the slave trade in the colonies, supplying captive Africans to the South and the Caribbean island. Black slaves were a valuable shipping commodity that soon proved useful at home, both in large-scale agriculture and in ship-building. The Mid-Atlantic colonies (New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania) had been under Dutch rule before the British conquered them in 1664. African slavery in the middle colonies had been actively encouraged by the Dutch authorities, and this was continued by the British.

Both the Dutch and English colonists in the North preferred to get their slaves from other New World colonies rather than directly from Africa. Direct imports from Africa were considered too dangerous and difficult. Instead, the middle colonies sought their African slaves from Dutch Curaçao and later from British Jamaica and Barbados. “These slaves were familiar with Western customs and habits of work, qualities highly prized in a region where masters and slaves worked and lived in close proximity.”[3]

Having survived one climate change already, they also adjusted better to Northern winters, which incapacitated or killed those direct from Africa. Both causes contributed to the adjective often used to advertise West Indies slaves being sold in the North: "seasoned."

By the late colonial period, the average slave-owning household in New England and the Mid-Atlantic seems to have had about 2 slaves. Estates of 50 or 60 slaves were rare, though they did exist in the Hudson Valley, eastern Connecticut, and the Narragansett region of Rhode Island. But the Northern climate set some barriers to large-scale agricultural slavery. The long winters, which brought no income on Northern farms, made slaves a burden for many months of the year unless they could be hired out to chop wood or tend livestock. In contrast to Southern plantation slavery, Northern slavery tended to be urban.

Slaveholding reflected social as well as economic standing, for in colonial times servants and retainers were visible symbols of rank and distinction. The leading families of Massachusetts and Connecticut used slaves as domestic servants, and in Rhode Island, no prominent household was complete without a large staff of black retainers. New York's rural gentry regarded the possession of black coachmen and footmen as an unmistakable sign of social standing. In Boston, Philadelphia, and New York the mercantile elite kept retinues of household slaves. Their example was followed by tradesmen and small retailers until most houses of substance had at least one or two domestics.[4]
There is argument among historians about the economic role of Northern slaves. Some maintain that New England slaves generally were held in situations where they did not do real work, such as might be done by a white laborer, and that many, if not most, of the New England slaves were held without economic justification, working as house servants or valets. Even in Pennsylvania, the mounting Pennsylvania Quaker testimony against slavery in the 1750s and '60s was in large part aimed against the luxuriousness and extravagance of the Friends who had domestic slaves. But other historians who have studied the matter in some depth (Greene, McManus, Melish) make a forceful case for slave labor being an integral part of the New England economy. And even those slaves who did the arduous work required in a colonial household freed their white owners to pursue careers in law, religion, medicine or civil service.

1. Edgar J. McManus, “Black Bondage in the North,” Syracuse University Press, 1973, p.17.
2. Herbert S. Klein, “The Atlantic Slave Trade,” Cambridge University Press, 1999, p.46.
3. McManus, op. cit., p.20.
4. McManus, pp.41-42.


You are the one with the motto: "The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying". So, what's it gonna be? You going to grow or shrivel up?


775 posted on 08/02/2004 8:58:19 AM PDT by PeaRidge ("Walt got the boot? I didn't know. When/why did it happen?" Ditto 7-22-04)
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To: Badeye
"My mothers name is Dixie Sue. Do the math...."

Well, my mama's name is Wilma Sue, but that don't 'splain why you seem intent on besmirching the honor of those who fought on the losing side in the War of Northern Aggression. Fact is, there was plenty of honor to go around on both sides of that dispute, but what Sherman did to civilians and to the land was dishonorable and a black mark on the North's ultimate triumph.

I'll betcha even DixieSue would agree with that...MUD

776 posted on 08/02/2004 8:59:56 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: PeaRidge

I'm going to tell you the truth. You bore me. I have no further interest in this subject at this time.

Sorry. Now, do us both a favor and let it go.

Thanks!


777 posted on 08/02/2004 9:01:16 AM PDT by Badeye ("If you Don't Vote, YOU are the PROBLEM")
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To: Mudboy Slim

"Well, my mama's name is Wilma Sue, but that don't 'splain why you seem intent on besmirching the honor of those who fought on the losing side in the War of Northern Aggression. Fact is, there was plenty of honor to go around on both sides of that dispute, but what Sherman did to civilians and to the land was dishonorable and a black mark on the North's ultimate triumph.

I'll betcha even DixieSue would agree with that...MUD"

I have NEVER besmirched the "honor" of any that fought in the Civil War. I don't know where you get that from. I hold all who stood looking across the "deadly space" in the highest esteem.

Sherman's actions, no matter if you agree with them or not, did shorten the war, which was over for all intents and purposes by 1864. Only the raw will power of Bobby Lee held the CSA together for those last 18 months.

The war, in my opinion, would have gone on for a couple of more years without Sherman's gutting of Georgia and South Carolina. I think we both know Grant would have killed every single CSA soldier if required. Sherman's march, no matter how you view it, prevented a war of extermination, thankfully. It contributed to Lee's decision not to go "guerilla" as was suggested by his own staff....primarily Taylor and Porter Alexander are on record advising that switch in tactics.

We can agree to disagree, but again, your characterization of my views is not accurate, never has been accurate, never will be accurate.

Nobody thats ever walked Hollywood Cemetary as I have could ever be confused with some idiots that in fact do disparage the South, the CSA, and the brave men who fought for it.


778 posted on 08/02/2004 9:11:02 AM PDT by Badeye ("If you Don't Vote, YOU are the PROBLEM")
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
rotflmRao!

the PIX is PRICELESS!

free dixie,sw

779 posted on 08/02/2004 9:27:41 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: stand watie; cyborg; The Scourge of Yazid
London Peeler:

"Roit! What's all THIS, then?"

780 posted on 08/02/2004 9:39:38 AM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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