I am a Jew. He is not a Jew. He hates me (and Jews in general) so much that he is compelled to slander us on other forums of which I am not a member. I don't hate him, and I don't mention him on threads in which he does not participate. He is just a trivial nuisance who occasionally violates the rules of this forum. Like the one about personal insults and libel.
5 posted on 07/09/2004 7:11:36 AM CDT by Alberta's Child
To: Alberta's Child
Since you have already noticed the deceptive nature of the article and you have already considered the source, just let me add my standard lament about thugs.
Some anti-Zionist are anti-Semitic and all anti-Semites are anti-Zionist just as some Zionists are racists. Groups such as the JDL and segments of the once proud ADL are run by thugs who are routinely condemed by a vast majority of the Jewish faith, especially in Israel since they are the ones who have to suffer the consequences from the Kahane Kooks.
7 posted on 07/09/2004 8:04:11 AM CDT by harrowup
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A fine example of the thuggery of the hard left harrowup. You don’t like the article, so you attack the forum of Catholic-Jewish intellectuals. Fine if you’re right, but you don’t wait to see who the intellectuals are, turns out it’s the Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee, established to further Catholic-Jewish relations in the wake of Vatican II. I realize you don’t like either left wing or right wing Jews, don’t know how you feel about Catholics, but whether you like them or not, that’s a legitimate group.
Left wing thuggery, pure and simple.
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To: Sjackson
If you want to meet a thug, say hi to harrowup
You are way out of line with that stupid remark which bears no resemblance to the truth.
Radical Zionist of the Kahane breed are an abomination and some of the local poobahs of the ADL have demonstrated disgusting racism.
There are good animals and bad animals. There are good humans and bad humans. There are good Christians and bad Christians. There are good Catholics and bad Catholics. There are good Jews and there are bad Jews. There are good Muslims and there are bad Muslims.
That' s life.
If you and your nasty little crowd want to yell about anti-Semitism and you are incapable of admitting that some Jews are thugs then you are a racist bigot. No big problem understanding that.
Asserting that I am a thug because I don't accept your politics is bigotry. Ignorant and and an insult to all peaceful Jews and Israel.
40 posted on 07/09/2004 2:08:54 PM CDT by harrowup (
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You are a thug, a two bit one in fact.
On the couple threads you’ve recently emerged on, you’ve posted absolutely nothing of substance. Your posts have been nothing but personal attacks.
On FR and other forums, you’ve accused me of “representing” the JDL on FR, you’re a liar, a knuckledragging leftist thug.
On FR and other forums, you’ve accused me of “representing” the ADL on FR, you’re a liar, a knuckledragging leftist thug, though on this one you’re at least in the company of some prominent Jewhaters on other forums.
On FR and other forums, you’ve accused me of calling you an anti-Semite, which I haven’t , you’re a liar, a knuckledragging leftist thug.
On FR and other forums, you’ve accused me of calling you a “self hating Jew”, you’re a liar, a knuckledragging leftist thug. I neither know nor care if you’re a Jew or a Kangaroo
On FR and other forums, you’ve accused the people on my ping list of being supportive of terrorist groups, and invoked the image of the KKK, you’re a liar, a knuckledragging leftist thug.
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To: Alouette
You made the charge, not me. I do not belong to any gang. If you have irrefutable proof, provide it. Prove it. Prove what you said about me with documentation and facts. Prove it. Prove it.
You came to this thread because you were gang pinged by Sammy and every damn one of you has chosen to keep up the same attack without the barest element of shame for your disgusting behavior.
Proof: You attacked me by invitation. That makes you a member of a gang. The same gang that has accused me of being a self-hating Jew because I am opposed to radical Zionism, as is a vast majority of the Israeli population. Your GANG are comprised of bigots and racists.
Your track record of gang attacks suggests you can't claim ignorance of that fact.
You disgust me and make it very easy for the other bigots and racists like Pat Buchanan take shots at Israel. You and your gang do a great disservice to Israel and the respect due that country and its people.
If you can convince me privately that I should think differently then give me a private note. If you are uncivil in that note I will print it.
66 posted on 07/09/2004 6:15:43 PM CDT by harrowup
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Allouette has a point, you’ve made lot’s of charges, prove them. You can’t, you’re a knuckledragging leftist thug.
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You appear to be the one doing the whining (to the Admin Moderator, no less) and squalling...as in your drama queen act that you are being hounded and threatened.
You were told to provide me with the evidence of same by private message and you declined. Instead you continue to make a public scene forgetting that you are on record as attacking me.
You are pretending to act as if you've never had any previous conversations with me and that is of course another falsehood. You claim you have an excuse for your behavior because a ping list isn't a gang. Well, you're right, most aren't but Sammy and you and the others jump anyone who crosses you...and you and your gang use a ping list to attack those who disagree with you. You gang up. FR is littered with examples of your abusive behavior every time you or your gangbangers get their pony tails atwist.
If you don't have the courage to admit it when you've acted abusively then at least stop pretending you are a victim here. You are not. You are a disagreeable thug whose behavior I will highlight every time I have to make excuses for Jews everywhere if they have to tolerate you professional bitching and moaning drama queens.
Consider my offer of a private communication over. The last time one of your gang sent me a private message it was intensely unacceptable and you apear to interested only in that route.
Should you choose to enter any future discussions solely to take a shot at me then you can be assurd that I will whack back, without whining to the moderators. Presumably they are aware of your gang's reputation.
Pig
71 posted on 07/09/2004 9:03:54 PM CDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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You want Alouette to have a private conversation with you, to discuss your public lies?
Are you nuts? Suck it up, “whack back”, post your proof. As I’ve noted before, if you’re right, FR has an OBLIGATION to ban me and many others.
You can’t though, you’re a lying knuckledragging leftist thug.
As to the gangbanger charge, well you know the answer.
If the mods don’t want ping lists, I’m sure they’ll let us know. If they don’t want ping lists run by Jews, they’ll establish that policy as well. I wouldn’t hold my breath.
BTW, it you’re not too busy spamming the internet, I’ve heard Michael Moore needs a scriptwriter, you’d be perfect for the job.
I am a proud member of Alouette's ping list. In the posts of Alouette and SJackson, I have seen nothing to indicate that they are irresponsible radicals. Also, I have yet to see anything in Harrowup's accusations that would prove that point. Alouette and SJackson simply appear to be unequivocally pro-Israel, as am I.
Now, as to Harrowup's Jewishness, I am aware of the Jewish tradition that in the case of mixed marriages, the mother's religion is generally the one in which the child is raised. However, I believe that Harrowup actually converted to Judaism. I just asked my wife, who is a Jew, if that makes Harrowup a Jew in the eyes of God. She says it does.