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Science Icon Fires Broadside At Creationists
London Times vis The Statesman (India) ^ | 04 July 2004 | Times of London Editorial

Posted on 07/04/2004 5:19:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Professor Ernst Mayr, the scientist renowned as the father of modern biology, will celebrate his 100th birthday tomorrow by leading a scathing attack on creationism.

The evolutionary biologist, who is already acclaimed as one of the most prolific researchers of all time, has no intention of retiring and is shortly to publish new research that dismantles the fashionable creationist doctrine of “intelligent design”.

Although he has reluctantly cut his workload since a serious bout of pneumonia 18 months ago, Prof. Mayr has remained an active scientist at Harvard University throughout his 90s. He has written five books since his 90th birthday and is researching five academic papers. One of these, scheduled to appear later this year, will examine how “intelligent design” — the latest way in which creationists have sought to present a divine origin of the world — was thoroughly refuted by Charles Darwin a century and a half ago.

His work is motivated in part by a sense of exasperation at the re-emergence of creationism in the USA, which he compares unfavourably with the widespread acceptance of evolution that he encountered while growing up in early 20th-century Germany.

The states of Florida, Mississippi, Missouri, Illinois, Kentucky and Oklahoma currently omit the word “evolution” from their curriculums. The Alabama state board of education has voted to include disclaimers in textbooks describing evolution as a theory. In Georgia, the word “evolution” was banned from the science curriculum after the state’s schools superintendent described it as a “controversial buzzword”.

Fierce protest, including criticism from Jimmy Carter, the former President, reversed this.

Prof. Mayr, who will celebrate his 100th birthday at his holiday home in New Hampshire with his two daughters, five grandchildren and 10 great-grandchildren, was born on 5 July 1905 in Kempten, Germany. He took a PhD in zoology at the University of Berlin, before travelling to New Guinea in 1928 to study its diverse bird life. On his return in 1930 he emigrated to the USA. His most famous work, Systematics and the Origin of Species, was published in 1942 and is regarded still as a canonical work of biology.

It effectively founded the modern discipline by combining Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection with Gregor Mendel’s genetics, showing how the two were compatible. Prof. Mayr redefined what scientists mean by a species, using interbreeding as a guide. If two varieties of duck or vole do not interbreed, they cannot be the same species.

Prof. Mayr has won all three of the awards sometimes termed the “triple crown” of biology — the Balzan Prize, the Crafoord Prize and the International Prize for Biology. Although he formally retired in 1975, he has been active as an Emeritus Professor ever since and has recently written extensively on the philosophy of biology.


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100-year old placemarker.


81 posted on 07/05/2004 1:38:03 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: af_vet_1981
That scientist is quite old and will soon discover that it was not Charles Darwin who created him.

What do you mean 'discover'? For that to happen, he would have to currently be under the impression that Charles Darwin did create him. I know of absolutely know one who claims to hold such a belief.
82 posted on 07/05/2004 1:40:48 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Okay. Do you believe that there is a scientific theory of creationism?


83 posted on 07/05/2004 1:41:35 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: Just mythoughts
So is good science left brain or right brain intellectual activity?

Good science is that which adheres to the scientific method.
84 posted on 07/05/2004 1:42:16 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: dmcnash
Darwinian evolution is a great theory but comes up short in helping to explain the initial spark for life

That's true. And gravity is a great theory, too, but it comes up short in helping to explain the intial source of the matter that is the ultimate source of gravity. I think that has something to do with those issues being outside of the scope of the respective theories.

I find faith in a creator a better explanation, that's how low I rate the probability.

In other words, you don't have a good scientific answer, so you just make up a supernatural one? And you think that logical?
85 posted on 07/05/2004 1:43:49 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: Wycowboy
Do you actually have an argument against evolution, or do you have nothing to offer but trite one-liners?

I could say "Christianity: a crutch for the fear of death", but that wouldn't falsify Christianity.
86 posted on 07/05/2004 1:46:35 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: GarySpFc
If the scientific method is applied to a set of facts, then it is science. Theology is a science.

How do you recocile the supernatural nature of theology with the fact that the scientific method only applies within the natural universe?
87 posted on 07/05/2004 1:48:31 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: Sola Veritas
However, you must know that secularists do.

I certainly do not.
88 posted on 07/05/2004 1:50:16 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: longshadow

Amazing thread placemarker.


89 posted on 07/05/2004 3:39:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Dimensio

So is good science left brain or right brain intellectual activity?

"Good science is that which adheres to the scientific method."


Scientific method is what constantly continues to evolve.


90 posted on 07/05/2004 3:40:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: dmcnash
I have a degree in biology and 5+ years graduate work and I have never heard of this guy?

Maybe you can get a refund?

91 posted on 07/05/2004 4:25:33 AM PDT by VadeRetro (You don't just bat those big liquid eyes and I start noticing how lovely you are. Hah!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The ICR loonies are supposed to be scientists? Real science is an investigation of nature. It has a spirit of inquiry. It isn't what you studied, it's what you do.


92 posted on 07/05/2004 4:30:40 AM PDT by VadeRetro (You don't just bat those big liquid eyes and I start noticing how lovely you are. Hah!)
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To: cookcounty; balrog666
That's when evolutionists get reviewed by other evolutionists.

On the other hand, when scientists are criticized by insurance salesmen from Chicago, everyone is supposed to take it seriously, right?

93 posted on 07/05/2004 5:40:40 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: VadeRetro
Maybe you can get a refund?

Should be easy enough, as long as he held on to his receipt - K-Mart is much better about refunds when you have a receipt.

94 posted on 07/05/2004 5:42:14 AM PDT by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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Just Enjoying Science Under Scrutiny …
95 posted on 07/05/2004 5:53:44 AM PDT by NewLand (Marx and Lenin are speaking from their graves...thru Hillary!)
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To: VadeRetro; general_re
More info on Ernst Mayr from this article: A giant in biology has evolved to 100, He helped modernize Darwinism :
Ernst Mayr, the last survivor of the intellectual giants who developed the modern version of the theory of evolution, turns 100 today.

"Among the great evolutionary biologists of this century," Mayr was called by Harvard sociobiologist and author Edward O. Wilson -- as well as "one of the best writers" on the topic.

In biology, "everybody stands in some way in (Mayr's) shadow," said Professor F. Clark Howell, co-director of the Laboratory for Human Evolutionary Studies at UC Berkeley, who first met Mayr in 1946. "He's done a huge amount of work and had a great influence."

Hard to believe that a graduate biologist, with post-doc work, has never heard of this guy. Anyway, continuing:
His stature has also earned him some enmity: To creationists, Mayr is their No. 1 scientific foe -- "the unquestioned dean of the modern evolutionary establishment," claims an online site run by the Institute for Creation Research in Santee, in San Diego County.
It's a pretty good article.
96 posted on 07/05/2004 8:16:29 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Dimensio
What do you mean 'discover'? For that to happen, he would have to currently be under the impression that Charles Darwin did create him. I know of absolutely know one who claims to hold such a belief.

I mean reality is about to rain on his parade like a ton of fire and brimstone bricks. Capiche ?

97 posted on 07/05/2004 8:38:48 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: PatrickHenry

Just as church and state must be kept separate, so must Creationism and science. It's as simple as that.


98 posted on 07/05/2004 9:23:03 AM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: af_vet_1981
I mean reality is about to rain on his parade like a ton of fire and brimstone bricks. Capiche ?

No, I don't understand. Why did you throw out the strawman idea that anyone believes that Charles Darwin created them?
99 posted on 07/05/2004 9:31:40 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://tinyurl.com/3xj9m)
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To: Dimensio
No, I don't understand. Why did you throw out the strawman idea that anyone believes that Charles Darwin created them?

They worship Charles Darwin, ergo they believe in him as their creator. They are just too fey and gay to realize it.

100 posted on 07/05/2004 9:49:50 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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