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Love on a Porn Set: One Woman's Story (ABC Expose of Porn Industry)
ABC News ^ | 5/27/04

Posted on 05/28/2004 5:25:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan

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To: AppyPappy
We don't send firemen into burning buildings to save some guy's money stash or to make a film.

Boxers have died, and at least one football player been paralyzed, to entertain us. I assume you'll want these sports banned?

121 posted on 05/28/2004 7:04:02 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Aquinasfan
Well, it's hard to imagine the porn industry as *not* having a seemy, dark side.

That being said, this girl is nuts. What is with all this faux victimization? The scenes were so awful for her at the outset, she was traumatized by the brutality of the whole thing, she hates it. Blah, blah, blah. Yet, she continues to make these films, boasts of her "pride" in doing so, says she's "addicted to the money", and eats up the attention she gets from her fans. Sheesh.

ABC is really getting played by this self-destructive girl m.o. The girl makes huge problems for herself, then plays the damsel in distress routine about those very problems. But, she's a woman, so she's automatically the sympathetic figure in the whole thing.

Look, I do feel bad for her situation. But she can leave at any time! She can go back home and get her life together. But, oh no, that can't happen. No more paychecks, no more awards... the poor thing, trapped between a rock and a hard place! And now she's got a romance with a porn star. Yeah, that might work out.

122 posted on 05/28/2004 7:05:36 AM PDT by Timm
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To: FITZ
She could have said --- no, I won't do that for $4000 and gone out and found another kind of job. The love of money drove her.

PRECISELY. If you're so shallow you'd throw away your self-respect for $4K, you'll get exactly what you deserve in the end. And apparently, Belladonna very much enjoyed getting it in the end. Ba-dump-bump.

123 posted on 05/28/2004 7:06:05 AM PDT by 54-46 Was My Number
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To: ArGee
Actually, this article isn't about bedroom police anyway, it's about asking the true adults (those who have matured a little past 18) to take some responsibility for their own actions, and how their actions become a snare for the young and unprotected.

I'm sorry. At 18 she became a "true adult". Either we have to say that the age of consent is too low or that she was responsible for her own life at that point.

124 posted on 05/28/2004 7:06:19 AM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: Aquinasfan
Explain to me how pornography is not intrinsically evil.

Apparently you're under the delusion that I agree that all "intrinsic evils" (still yet to be defined) should be illegal. But I don't.

So if I think pornography should be legal, that in no way implies I think it's neutral, let alone a good. In fact, although there's still no definition of intrinsic evils, any reasonable definition would include pornography. I happen to be of the opinion that any reasonable definition of an intrinsic evil would also include such things as blasphemy, promoting Judaism, promoting Islam, denying the Trinity, or for that matter eucharistic adoration.

125 posted on 05/28/2004 7:07:27 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Know your rights

Boxers wear gloves and football players wear helmets. There are also penalties.

Those regs don't exist in the porn industry.


126 posted on 05/28/2004 7:07:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Aquinasfan
"...the consensual conduct of peaceful citizens..."

"Is that the way you'd describe Michelle's story?"

"Michelle had gotten her start in the business at 18, when she came to Los Angeles from her home in Utah to look for work as a nude photograph model. When she failed to get modeling work, her agent encouraged her to try porn. She refused at first. "I always hated porn. I thought it was the most disgusting thing in the world," she told Primetime, which followed her career for more than two years."

"But she finally agreed."

"She was shocked when the director told her he wanted her to do anal sex —snip- she let him talk her into it."

"Then her agent sent her on a job where she would have sex with male actors in prison outfits — 12 of them. Once again, she tried to back out, telling the director it was "sick," but once again she was talked into it."

"Afterward, she says, she couldn't stop crying. She packed her bags and went home to her family in Utah. -snip-But within a year, she was back."

"She said he could keep having sex with other women"

"I can say that I've done pretty much everything there is to do, and I can walk away feeling a little proud about it, you know?"

Michelle confessed she often felt physical revulsion during her scenes: "My whole entire body feels it when I'm doing it and ... I feel so — so gross." While pretending to be enjoying the sex, she said, she was in fact counting the minutes, telling herself, "Hey, I only have this much time left. Don't worry about it. Get the check. Gonna go deposit it in your bank." She admitted: "You get addicted to the money."

Yeah...she's a "victim", and it's all our fault.

/sarcasm

127 posted on 05/28/2004 7:08:51 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Pátria, pero sin amo.)
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To: Aquinasfan
-- we are our brother's keeper.

You are free to believe that, and act upon it, within legal bounds. -- I am free to demand that you leave me alone, as I don't want to be 'kept'.

The purpose of society is to promote the common good.

Promoting liberty & justice come first. The common 'good' cannot exist without the first two.

Turning a blind eye to vice is not charitable, it's evil. Specifically, it's a sin of omission.

See above. - I don't want your charity, - I want liberty from those who use 'evil' human vice as an excuse to curtail our freedoms.

Intrinsic evils should be criminalized.

It is intrinsically evil to criminalize consensual human 'vice'. -- And in fact, our Constitution was written to protect us from such infringements on our liberties.

128 posted on 05/28/2004 7:10:45 AM PDT by tpaine ("The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being." -- Solzhenitsyn)
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To: LanPB01

Chasey always had the most beautiful pair of...eyes. :-)


129 posted on 05/28/2004 7:10:50 AM PDT by TheBigB (When Woody Allen and Soon-Yi are in bed together, does he ever yell, "Who's your daddy?!")
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To: FITZ
She was 18 and she wasn't victimized --- she had money waved in her face and she went for it each and every time. At 18 --- look at her choices, she could have joined the military --- there are 18 year old women in Iraq. She could have worked at a McDonalds --- but that wasn't good enough money for this one. There's nothing about her that's a victim.

It's too bad her parents didn't warn her about this aspect of the world. I have a rebellious teen daughter and I had to start telling her of some of these ugly realities early, especially when I read that the average prostitute starts turning tricks at about 14 years of age.

130 posted on 05/28/2004 7:11:49 AM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK...AND I USE IT TOO.)
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To: Old Sarge

131 posted on 05/28/2004 7:14:16 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: ArGee
But Libertarians always resort to the "bedroom police" argument. I guess it's because because they want to avoid their responsibility to society. It's easier.

My responsibility to society is to live according to the laws of my country and to be exist peacefully among my fellow men. My responsibility to society is not to correct the moral mistakes other people may make, just as surely as it's not my responsibility to society to correct the financial mistakes other people may make.

132 posted on 05/28/2004 7:16:24 AM PDT by 54-46 Was My Number
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To: tpaine
It is intrinsically evil to criminalize consensual human 'vice'

What kind of modernist garbage is this statement? "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil."

133 posted on 05/28/2004 7:17:03 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: AppyPappy
Boxers wear gloves and football players wear helmets.

And yet death and paralysis still occur. Should we regulate those sports until death and paralysis are impossible? If not, why should we hold porn production to that standard?

134 posted on 05/28/2004 7:17:18 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: tpaine

Who wrote all the state Constitutions and local laws banning prostitution and adultery and a host of other behaviors?????????? I guess those folks were unenlightened as to the true meaning of liberty. Or maybe they knew better.


135 posted on 05/28/2004 7:19:21 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: 54-46 Was My Number
"I Googled her just to see what she looked like, and let's just say there's a reason the end opposite her face is what made her 'famous.'"

HA!!
Well one of her promos read:

"Watch Belladonna Smother men!
Face sitting, Butt worship, PPV.
"

Truth in advertising?
Maybe.

God only knows *what* the [porno] term "PPV" stands for too, other than "Pay-Per-View"?

In any event, some sick-sick stuff.

...for some sick-sick people.

136 posted on 05/28/2004 7:20:32 AM PDT by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Know your rights
If not, why should we hold porn production to that standard?

Oh OK. Since nothing is perfect, we shouldn't try anything. Good answer.

Sheesh....

137 posted on 05/28/2004 7:20:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: 54-46 Was My Number

Which laws do you wish to obey? The ones that the Supreme Court has recently begun to outlaw? Or the laws that have been on the books for years and years?


138 posted on 05/28/2004 7:21:24 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Landru
"Watch Belladonna Smother men!
Face sitting, Butt worship, PPV."

Quality find. All these self-righteous tears for a woman who sold her soul this way.

139 posted on 05/28/2004 7:22:31 AM PDT by 54-46 Was My Number
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To: petitfour
Which laws do you wish to obey? The ones that the Supreme Court has recently begun to outlaw? Or the laws that have been on the books for years and years?

I obey the "mind my own business" law, and the "live and let live" law.

140 posted on 05/28/2004 7:23:40 AM PDT by 54-46 Was My Number
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