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To: Aquinasfan
-- we are our brother's keeper.

You are free to believe that, and act upon it, within legal bounds. -- I am free to demand that you leave me alone, as I don't want to be 'kept'.

The purpose of society is to promote the common good.

Promoting liberty & justice come first. The common 'good' cannot exist without the first two.

Turning a blind eye to vice is not charitable, it's evil. Specifically, it's a sin of omission.

See above. - I don't want your charity, - I want liberty from those who use 'evil' human vice as an excuse to curtail our freedoms.

Intrinsic evils should be criminalized.

It is intrinsically evil to criminalize consensual human 'vice'. -- And in fact, our Constitution was written to protect us from such infringements on our liberties.

128 posted on 05/28/2004 7:10:45 AM PDT by tpaine ("The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being." -- Solzhenitsyn)
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To: tpaine
It is intrinsically evil to criminalize consensual human 'vice'

What kind of modernist garbage is this statement? "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil."

133 posted on 05/28/2004 7:17:03 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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To: tpaine

Who wrote all the state Constitutions and local laws banning prostitution and adultery and a host of other behaviors?????????? I guess those folks were unenlightened as to the true meaning of liberty. Or maybe they knew better.


135 posted on 05/28/2004 7:19:21 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: tpaine
Promoting liberty & justice come first. The common 'good' cannot exist without the first two.

The securing of Liberty and Justice help to promote the Common Good. The Common Good is logically prior, which is why it's included in the preamble to the Constitution.

Also, Liberty is not license.

Turning a blind eye to vice is not charitable, it's evil. Specifically, it's a sin of omission.

See above. - I don't want your charity, - I want liberty from those who use 'evil' human vice as an excuse to curtail our freedoms.

What you want is irrelevant. What is important is what is objectively good, true and just.

It is intrinsically evil to criminalize consensual human 'vice'.

Why? Are consensual vices somehow not vices?

-- And in fact, our Constitution was written to protect us from such infringements on our liberties.

Infringements on the right to commit vices? That's an interesting interpretation, to be kind.

201 posted on 05/28/2004 8:35:37 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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