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To: Cultural Jihad
Using this political fantasy that laws somehow rob people of their free will, here is their argument to its logical conclusion: "Laws against bank-robbery rob would-be bank robbers of their free will choice of whether to rob or not. They are just zombies without any self-control or personal responsibility in the matter."

What an illogical, anti-liberty and actually anti-American argument.

Last I checked, theft, of any kind, including bank-robbery, is and always has been a crime. Smoking, on the other hand is not now, and has never been, a crime. The principles of liberty, which our founding fathers well knew, but modern Americans--like yourself--have forgotten, is that if actions cause no harm to others then freedom dictates we permit them. Indeed, freedom dictates that government does not even have the right to forbid them.

On private property, legal activity should be permitted. Period.

If you carefully investigate the "science" on 2nd hand smoke, you'll find, its just not there. Of course the science against smoking (1st hand, if you will) is there--by the tons. However 2nd hand smoke--due to the number of variables (ventilation, numbers of smokers, airspace of the room, time in the room, frequency in the room, etc. etc.) are so great, its nearly impossible to do meaningful studies. That hasn't kept those who PREFER not to smell smoke (its not, at bottom line a health issue), from forcing, with a fascist mentality, their opinion on private property owners, and their patrons.

No one is forced to go into a particular establishment--nor are employees forced to work there--so no one is EVER forced to breath in 2nd hand smoke. Why is it an issue then?

Neurotic, feminized, freedom-hating individuals just love to run the lives of others, that's why. It's very sad that numbers of "conservatives" are among them.

59 posted on 05/12/2004 12:29:00 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
You are wasting your fingers typing to him. He's gone. Hit and run. As soon as he is exposed as a criminal he always sneaks away.
60 posted on 05/12/2004 12:35:39 PM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: AnalogReigns
Neurotic, feminized, freedom-hating individuals just love to run the lives of others, that's why. It's very sad that numbers of "conservatives" are among them.

I added this comment to a new section of my profile page called "Favorite Quotes from other FReepers". If you have any objection to this, let me know and I'll remove it.

65 posted on 05/12/2004 1:19:33 PM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: AnalogReigns
Yes, it is illogical to claim that laws somehow rob people of their free will choices.

Case in point, supposedly, is the one Founder who crushed the Whiskey Rebellion. Then, again, it harms no one when a private property owner decides what lawful products are allowed and not allowed on his own private property, including smoking.
78 posted on 05/12/2004 4:15:46 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: AnalogReigns
You make the Founders out to be moral-liberals or something. Speaking of which, the reason they all enacted in their respective states anti-homosexual sodomy laws, which stayed on the books for hundreds of years, was _____________?
79 posted on 05/12/2004 4:41:31 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: AnalogReigns
I have one word for your commentary.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

87 posted on 05/12/2004 7:02:12 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my second hand smoke.)
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