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I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)
Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:32:01 AM PST by robowombat

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams


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To: MJY1288
Me?

working for the gubmint?

Don't know me very well... do ye?

561 posted on 02/02/2004 5:44:21 PM PST by OWK
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To: MJY1288
Relax. I've had an account at LP for over a year, too.

I rarely go there, but do, occasionally, to poke a stick.

Lots of pokeables over there.

562 posted on 02/02/2004 5:48:53 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
I'm very relaxed :-)
563 posted on 02/02/2004 5:52:16 PM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT)
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To: sinkspur
Lots of pokeables over there.

That's putting it mildly .. just make one post over there and they come out of the woodworks

564 posted on 02/02/2004 5:55:52 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: OWK
Just got back...went to watch Dennis Miller, but it's another repeat...second repeat in 6 days. What gives?
565 posted on 02/02/2004 6:02:22 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: sinkspur
OK...for us chat challenged, what's LP?
566 posted on 02/02/2004 6:04:53 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: OWK
Mommy, mommy

I find it quite funny when these dense ones can't argue with you, and have to resort to whining and to name calling. They're pathetic. They're also a part of what is wrong! The republic is in trouble with 'citizens' like these.

567 posted on 02/02/2004 6:07:07 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: dmzTahoe
LP is Liberty Post. I think it may have been started as an FR alternative, but ended up getting those filled with hate, and they seem to hate FR more than anything else. My humble opinion.
568 posted on 02/02/2004 6:08:56 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
Hey you, long time no see!

Great to see you again :-)
569 posted on 02/02/2004 6:48:23 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Protagoras
You mistakenly assume that my default vote would be Republican

So your choices aren't third-party or GOP? That seemed like it should be a pretty safe assumption here at Free Republic. Please explain why it's not?

570 posted on 02/02/2004 7:21:44 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: MJY1288
Heheh...
571 posted on 02/02/2004 7:45:30 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Four hours is too long for a Democrat to sit in the Oval Office, let alone four years. Vote W '04)
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To: Tamsey
I vote for the candidate who's goals and policies match mine. Party is unimportant to me.

My vote doesn't belong to Republicans to lose, it is theirs to earn. Like all candidates.

572 posted on 02/02/2004 8:02:52 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Tempest
It wasn't the fault of the judge.

Apologetics will get you no where. No matter how faulty the case was, the Judges interpretation of DC's legal status and its relation to the basic Constitutional protections of our Rights as US citizens was abhorent. His opinion could have been crafted by SArah Brady herself.

Even the NRA backed this case when they would barely lift a finger on the Silveria case that ACTUALLY dealt with the 2A issue. That you would attack the case rather than Bush's liberal appointee speaks volumes about your ideology. It sure as hell isn't "conservative" or even moderate.

573 posted on 02/02/2004 8:21:50 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Owen
Dood, the Constitution does not even mention political parties, but they are the reality of the day and what you have to work within.

Some hold that political parties are why we are so far off our Constitutional course. Not sure I subscribe to that view, but there is at least some correlation if not causation. There is a malaise in our governing system. It infects both of the Big Two parties. Bush is a band-aid on a severed femoral artery. But better than no band-aid at all.

574 posted on 02/02/2004 8:26:32 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Tempest
But hey. If you like judicial activist that will target gun rights, freedom of speech, and innocent children so be it. I'm glad that you can equate such surrender to a clear conscience.

OK, let's dissect these. George Bush supported and signed the CFR bill. He is not on the side of free (political, the most important kind) speech. Case closed.

Gun rights: President Bush pledged to sign the AWB if those that want to see it renewed can muster the political will to get it to his desk. If the Democrats manage to pull a rabbit out of their hat and actually get it done, will he do an about face? No way. Strike two.

Abortion: Bush has made his stance clear, which on its face seems promising. He signed the PBA ban which is good, but this only makes a difference in a tiny minority of cases. In actual practice he has used not his influence to push for any kind of legislative ban on abortion generally, and his lack of hard-line diligence on pushing his anti-abortion nominees does not bode well for what could happen when he nominates a SC judge on this life-and-death issue. If he can't get some lowly circuit judges confirmed how is he going to get a conservative SC judge appointed when the Democrats will really be screaming?
575 posted on 02/02/2004 8:30:20 PM PST by Abe Froman
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To: MJY1288
Jeff Adams should just vote for a Democrat, it's the same result

And what's the difference between voting for a Democrat and voting for George W. Bush? As far as I can see, it's that in 2005, if Bush was no longer President, conservatives could reclaim control of the national GOP.

576 posted on 02/02/2004 8:30:23 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: 68 grunt
Hate? AM I getting it mixed up with LibertyForum where all the Anti-semites hang out? Neither as good a resource for fresh political news and sheer good conversation than you can get here.

Prime reason why FR is the only forum I've ever donated to to keep going. It's the only product on the market worth the dime.

577 posted on 02/02/2004 8:32:18 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Abe Froman
I would have liked to see him push some legislation that woul require each State take up the abortion issue thereby nullifying Roe V Wade. Medical care of the populace is between the individual and the doctor. Not the Federal Government.

That it would get rid of FedGov sponsored abortion clinics is an added bonus.

578 posted on 02/02/2004 8:40:24 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: JoeSchem
There is the rather large issue of the Terrorists. One of Bush's more important saving graces. Too bad it is also one of his FEW saving graces.
579 posted on 02/02/2004 8:42:52 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Warren_Piece
The quick answer is that although I feel the spending and other things are undesirable, I do not see them as a threat to the republic.

It depends on how you define "survive". If, by "survive", you mean that our government oligarchy (at this point) remains intact and there is no civil war or foreign invasion to overthrow it, then sure, it survives. It does not, however, survive in the form the founders originally intended. It has been (seemingly) irrevocably changed. Our liberty, which is inextricably linked to the federal limits set forth in the Constitution, has surely not survived the legislative and judicial assault on it. Our God-given natural rights are now effectively up for popular democratic vote. That vote now ends up on the wrong side of our liberty as a matter of routine. We can say that the republic has survived in name and official designation only. Bush doesn't need to declare himself dictator in order to act like the dictator he effectively is, in some areas, at least.
580 posted on 02/02/2004 8:43:28 PM PST by Abe Froman
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