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I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)
Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:32:01 AM PST by robowombat

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams


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To: redlipstick; Peach
I liked the graphics. They're chock full of information.

And some are just designed to make ya smile :-)


361 posted on 02/02/2004 12:28:44 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Dead Corpse; hchutch; Tamsey; Cultural Jihad; My2Cents
So when we point out that Bush isn't exactly a stellar conservative, and you idjits jump all over us... you must have gotten hit with the stick then right?

First point: who declared you and your ilk the Mikhail Suslovs of the conservative movement?

Second point: he's as conservative a President as you're going to get in 2004. If you don't like it, tough. Whining will not help you; it is also not a conspicuously conservative trait. Slow-rolling the GOP like you morons did in the 1992-2000 period will help you even less. When you don't vote in general elections for a decade or so, you can't really claim to be the base...especially when the GOP starts winning without your help.

If you want things your way, you can do one of two things:

1. Start producing votes and winning elections. This involves liberal application of the commodity known as "hard work."

2. If (1) does not appeal to you, go to the local Burger King.

362 posted on 02/02/2004 12:37:21 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Seruzawa
Great post!
363 posted on 02/02/2004 12:37:26 PM PST by Quick1
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To: Abe Froman
Are you kidding me?
364 posted on 02/02/2004 12:38:08 PM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: Tamsey
"Peach's entire chart is pointing to areas where Bush has conservative values.... "

The chart is the advertised GWB...after the product is purchased, you are a bit disappointed with what you bought. Did you ever see ads on TV for restaurants, how about big juicy hamburgers...then it's not the real deal.

Actions speak louder than words, and this President's actions/inactions are quite revealing.

365 posted on 02/02/2004 12:38:21 PM PST by dmzTahoe (1.)
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To: Tamsey
Please, not a dog thread!
366 posted on 02/02/2004 12:38:21 PM PST by Ches ("old enough to remember when the air was clean and sex was dirty")
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To: OWK
If immigration and spending were the only issues, the statement "Bush is a leftist" would be 100% true. Think about it:

Abortion - Bush is a leftist?
Our relationship to the UN: Bush is a leftist?
Our relationship with Old Europe: Bush is a leftist?
WOT / Iraq : Bush is a leftist?
Religious Freedom: Bush is a leftist?
Global Warming/Environment/Kyoto: Bush is a leftist?
Judicial Appointments: Bush is a leftist? (Maybe a wimp, but a leftists?)
RTKBA: - Not neccesarily conservative, but leftist? (ie proposing new gun-grabbing laws
Cultural/The Family/Values: Bush is a leftist?

I'm sorry - there is no way your statement is true. Bush isn't conservative on a few issues (there is a difference between not being conservative and being a leftist), and they may be important to you, but they are not even 30% of the entire equation. You cannot discount the other items just because they aren't at the top of YOUR list.

367 posted on 02/02/2004 12:43:25 PM PST by Warren_Piece (Wake up you Sheeple! The Steelers fan invaders are a bunch of Statists!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
"No, because the Conservative movement doesn't advocate electing Democrats as some here have"

IF and when a Dem is more conservative than a Pub, the choice is easy.

Who would you rather have as President...GWB or Sam Nunn? GWB or Zell Miller?

Sounds like you vote straight party line at any cost.

368 posted on 02/02/2004 12:43:39 PM PST by dmzTahoe (1.)
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To: ChadGore
""Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow conservative." -- Reagans Law"

The operative word here is "Conservative".

If it don't walk like a duck, don't sound like a duck and don't look like a duck, it ain't a duck.

369 posted on 02/02/2004 12:46:20 PM PST by dmzTahoe (1.)
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To: dmzTahoe
The chart is the advertised GWB...after the product is purchased, you are a bit disappointed with what you bought. Did you ever see ads on TV for restaurants, how about big juicy hamburgers...then it's not the real deal. Actions speak louder than words, and this President's actions/inactions are quite revealing.

More of these over-the-top slogans... did you see the list of his conservative actions in office in just the last three years? If not I'll post it for you.

Speaking of menus, you have Bush or Kerry to choose from. Choose Bush for an imperfect meal, maybe, based on how far you are to the right. Choose Kerry for something completely toxic no matter where you fall on the scale.

370 posted on 02/02/2004 12:47:01 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: ChadGore
"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow conservative." -- Reagans Law

This was edited?

371 posted on 02/02/2004 12:47:26 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: dmzTahoe; hchutch; Tamsey; My2Cents; Cultural Jihad
Who would you rather have as President...GWB or Sam Nunn?

GWB--Sam Nunn voted against Operation Desert Storm and worked unceasingly to kill SDI.

GWB or Zell Miller?

GWB, because Zell Miller elected Tom Daschle as Majority Leader, and refused to back up his bluster about the evils of liberalism with action to stop same.

Sounds like you vote straight party line at any cost.

Sam Nunn and Zell Miller voted straight party line at the expense of their alleged "conservatism," but you hold them up as paragons of conservatism.

Tell Mr. Soros that he needs to hire a better grade of troll, and return your paycheck to him.

372 posted on 02/02/2004 12:48:00 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Tamsey
Speaking of menus, you have Bush or Kerry to choose from.

No matter how often it is repeated it will still be incorrect.

373 posted on 02/02/2004 12:48:28 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Protagoras; hchutch; Tamsey; My2Cents; Cultural Jihad
Speaking of menus, you have Bush or Kerry to choose from.

No matter how often it is repeated it will still be incorrect.

You have Bush on the Republican side. You have an unnamed Democrat (possibly Kerry or Dean) on the Democrat side.

The occupant of the Oval Office on 1/20/05 will be either the Republican nominee, or the Democrat nominee.

Which one do you prefer to see in the White House after January 20th, 2005? Pick one or the other, and state your choice publicly, good sir.

374 posted on 02/02/2004 12:51:46 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
If you don't like it, tough.

So just "eat sh1t and like it" is what conservatives are getting from the GOP these days? And you think that is going to win you votes?

Tancredo. Paul. McClintock. Dozens of other REAL Conservative Republicans already in office that are every bit as electable and infinitely more conservative than your boy George.

Voting for the lesser of two evils only works if the "lesser" evil actualy is the lesser. With a $2.4 trillion dollar budget loaded full of pork and not a single veto... are you sure you got the right guy?

375 posted on 02/02/2004 12:55:57 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Warren_Piece
After seeing Peach's graphics, I might rescing the "Bush is a leftist" for the spending category as well. That just leaves immigration.
376 posted on 02/02/2004 12:58:46 PM PST by Warren_Piece (Wake up you Sheeple! The Steelers fan invaders are a bunch of Statists!)
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To: Tamsey
Speaking of menus, you have Bush or Kerry to choose from.

So you see nothing wrong with a choice between a cup full of pudding with a teaspoon full of feces, and a cup full of feces with a teaspoon of pudding?

Sorry, we would rather have the 100% no feces pudding. No matter how many of you step forward and tell us that you really can't taste the feces in your brand of pudding.

377 posted on 02/02/2004 12:58:58 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Warren_Piece
er, rescind.
378 posted on 02/02/2004 12:59:10 PM PST by Warren_Piece (Wake up you Sheeple! The Steelers fan invaders are a bunch of Statists!)
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To: Poohbah
The occupant of the Oval Office on 1/20/05 will be either the Republican nominee, or the Democrat nominee.

Which of course doesn't mean that no other choices are available. Much to the disappointment of the power mongers.

Pick one or the other, and state your choice publicly, good sir.

I intend to exert my rights and vote for someone else, or no one at all.

NONE OF THE ABOVE should be a choice on the ballot as it is in reality.

379 posted on 02/02/2004 12:59:50 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Poohbah
~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~
380 posted on 02/02/2004 1:04:29 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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