[Fawnn]

I just think we could get some of those people back....

I guess I just don't understand the logic of wanting to get people back who to my observation have done nothing but attempt to disrupt things here, and/or insult the FR base.

This is an election year and our objective is to see that W gets reelected. Therefore, regardless of how important single issues may be in the overall scheme of things, at the moment, those issues become petty if the debate of those issues detracts from our objective.

W and the increasing Republican strength in the House and Senate are furthering the conservative cause. We need to see that that keeps happening. We need to continue to work on the big picture, and eventually, everything else will work out. (This country didn't become so socialist-leaning overnight; therefore, it's unrealistic to think that any candidate can wave a magic wand and instantly presto-chango things back to an ideal conservative world -- especially when there are differences between conservatives about what that ideal conservative world should be. And now isn't the time to be focusing on those differences.)

I personally find the values of the current adminstration refreshing. I trust my president. And, I'm thankful I have someone in that office whom I can trust!

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I was thinking third party myself, and I know lots of very thoughtful third party thinking people around here. The disrupter are not all from one camp. The reason to get them back is to increase the numbers. The Bush campaign is very interested in numbers and grass roots. The know exactly ho many Conservatives they need. According to many people they thought were moderates, they are really falling in line with the Conservatives on the Amnesty issue was such a bad move, that was the straw for many people and for no real point it seems.

The concern of mine is that not allowing the Conservatives into the Republic party, over something that isn't even in front of Congress, is going to loose us the election.

It has happened in the past. They know they need Conservatives as much as anyone else.

I wish we could work together and grow the numbers and make some changes. We know we are going to have a mess on our hands with this next election.. there will be fraud , dirty tricks and the Dems will pull out the stops.

Why alienate huge groups of people right now? I really believe that without the Conservatives President Bush is going to loose. Beleive me, I do not want to see that either.

And I say that as a Conservative who loves this country and loves President Bush, not to be disruptive or troll. His domestic policies have been far harder for me to accept than Clinton's were. I know some of it had to be done, and some of it was a bad call.

But the Amnesty thing is something I think we can work on.

79% of Americans do not like the platform. We can get him to work on that I think.